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Re: [world-cruising] Crew LIabilities

From: Peter Ogilvie (no email)
Date: Tue Feb 19 2008 - 18:41:45 EST

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    When we were in FP many years ago it was mucical boats
    for crews. There were precious few boats with
    volunteer crews that didn't have some, if not all,
    jump ship as soon as they hit Papeete. Some even
    bolted in the Marquesas where they had no hope of
    getting transport off island except with other yachts
    or the not too frequent Copra Boats, they were so
    bummed with the boat that they came on. The retention
    rate for couples was better but even there, there was
    a goodly number of defections among those with more
    permanent arrangements.

    If I was sailing and needed crew to continue, I'd plan
    on replacing crew at each port. Not that big a deal
    as there are crew floating around almost every
    cruising center. You may not need to, but be prepared
    to get the press gang out.

    Personally, I wouldn't think of sailing with crew
    other than my wife. Had a friend visit us for two
    months in FP. He was the most innocuous mild mannered
    person that you could hope for but we were ready to
    drown him near the end. Just being in a confined
    space for long periods will drive you and them crazy.

    Aloha
    Peter O.
    --- wrote:

    > I'm departing in March for the Marquesas/Society
    > Islands passage. I'm
    > signing on crew with Tahiti as the first major
    > destination and with only a
    > commitment to go that far. In French Polynesia the
    > skipper is liable for
    > crew transport out of the country, and I believe a
    > bond or a return air
    > ticket is required. My crewing requirements are
    > that crew pay their airfare
    > and documentation fees. I tend to be a trusting
    > man, but there is always
    > the possibility of incompatible crew not agreeing to
    > pay their way off the
    > island.
    >
    > What are your experiences with crew and transport?
    > Has anyone had any
    > problems? Does anybody have any suggestions?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    > Jeffrey M. Stander
    > La Paz
    >
    > s/v BEATRIX - KP44 #276 (1980)
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    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From:
    > [mailto:]
    > On Behalf Of Mark Parker
    > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:28 PM
    > To:
    > Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: furling systems
    >
    > For a low cost furler, consider the CDI. It can be
    > owner installer _ I did
    > it on my 28' Pearson Triton and found it both easy
    > to install and use. Could
    > certainly handle the staysail. I would get other
    > opinions about a bigger
    > genoa as it lacks ball bearings and such (KISS!) I
    > my experience the CDI
    > worked much better than the Lofrans until be have on
    > our FP 43" cat (BUT
    > that really is comparing apples to oranges!) Fair
    > Winds, Mark Parker
    >
    > casey_2020 wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > Mike,
    > >
    > > The Spin-Tec looks interesting, here are a few
    > thoughts.
    > >
    > > Since you plan on going cruising:
    > > * I would recommend having a halyard in place on
    > all hoisted sails. It
    > > will allow for easy luff tension adjustments that
    > you will want to
    > > make for light to moderate air (in heavy air you
    > will probably furl
    > > the genoa up and use the staysail).
    > >
    > > * Stuff happens and there will be times when you
    > need to get the genoa
    > > down pronto, like a large rip or sail blow-out and
    > you will want the
    > > sail drop to be simple and fast.
    > >
    > > * If you have more than one genoa you will at
    > times want to put up the
    > > light air headsail. Hopefully you have some light
    > air sails, if not
    > > there are sources for used sails in good condition
    > at low $$. If you
    > > ever do need a new sail of any type I recommend:
    > www.rollytasker.com I
    > > bought a premium quality new mainsail from them,
    > delivered to my door,
    > > at 1/2 the price of a local sailmaker.
    > >
    > > * If you have a halyard attached you definitely
    > want some type of
    > > anti-wrap feature (other than having to remember
    > when you may get a
    > > wrap) I've been-there-done-that....
    > >
    > > * You can save $$ by doing the furler installation
    > yourself. Stalock
    > > or Noresman fittings are fine. If you do have one
    > on the bottom of
    > > your headstay be certain that you install it
    > correctly. I have read of
    > > two instances where the fitting came "unscrewed"
    > due to the furling
    > > and unfurling action over a period of time. I used
    > a Noresman fitting
    > > and haven't had that problem.
    > >
    > > * DON'T give up on the watermaker. I think they
    > are a necessity if you
    > > will be cruising where the water quality cannot be
    > trusted. It's a
    > > real health issue. Also you will be able to takes
    > 2 showers a day when
    > > in hot & humid conditions. You will be able to
    > wash the boat salt
    > > residue of the boat. And you will not have to
    > jerry jug hundreds of
    > > lbs of water. I bought a modular watermaker system
    > and did my own
    > > installation. Do it yourself you will be glad you
    > did because you will
    > > be throughly familiar with every hose and valve.
    > And you can locate
    > > the components where you have space for them. Plus
    > you will save $$. I
    > > bought a new 24 gph watermaker system for 1/2 the
    > price of the
    > > off-the-shelf units. Mine is made by:
    > www.aquamarineinc.net it came in
    > > kit form with excellent instructions and Dan was
    > always available by
    > > telephone to answer any questions. They have been
    > in business for
    > > years.
    > >
    > > Hope this helps, have fun,
    > >
    > > Casey
    > >
    > > many require that I replace or modify my 3 year
    > old head stay and
    > > require a closed turn buckle and swedged fitting
    > rather than the
    > > Stalock fitting and open turn buckle I have now.
    > > Looks like the watermaker will have to wait.
    > > >
    > > > Mike D.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Yahoo! Groups Links
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Aloha
    Peter Ogilvie
    Pa'akai O'o, Pearson 35 #108
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