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Re: [world-cruising] Re: mono vs. multi's advice

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Date: Tue Oct 09 2007 - 20:58:41 EDT

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    Well, again you seem to be wanting to continue to bend the laws of physics.
    A 50 footer will outsail a 32 footer ever day of the week. If they are both
    sailed skilfully then the 32 foot boat has no chance so one can only surmise
    that the 50 foot boat was being sailed very badly. Hull down in two hours
    sounds like a 5 mile gap this means you were going 2.5 knots faster than the
    50 foot boat - lets just look at some facts
     
    Westsail 32 has a waterline length of 27' 6" this gives a theoretical
    maximum hull speed of 7.03 knots
    on a full sail broad reach you might get 8 knots or a bit more if you are
    seriously overdriving the boat
     
    Your William Garden 50 is well it is not really a 50 foot boat at all - all
    clipper bow and bowsprit BUT it still has a waterline length of 39' 1" which
    will give a theoretical maximum hull speed of 8.38 knots. On a broad reach
    this boat will also most likely be able to exceed the theoretical maximum
    hull speed and could be doing 9/9.25 knots on a broad reach in full sail weather
    conditions
     
    So you will see that this boat had to be sailed very inefficiently IF you
    were sailing 2.5 knots faster than it
     
    I sailed a First 456 an IOR boat for years and for sure you would have only
    see my transom once - maybe twice - once when we left the departure point and
    again when you arrived hours or days after me and found me tied up at the
    dock. I now sail a Beneteau 461 and again your Westsail would be left behind
    in my wake very very quickly.
     
    regards
     
    David
     
    In a message dated 09/10/2007 21:34:48 GMT Daylight Time,
    writes:

    The 50 footer was one those Garden designed 50
    footers. The boat seemed to have correct sail
    combination and not inefficiently sailed. It was a
    reach in strong trades which is the 'snails' ideal
    sailing conditions. Overtook the boat and put it hull
    down in a couple of hours. Went from Honokohau
    Harbor, Kona to the Ala Wai in Waikiki, solo, in 22
    hours and change on that passage.

    The IOR boats are not especially fast sailors off the
    wind, especially if they don't have a chute up. This
    boat was on a delivery and didn't raise a chute. It
    was our working cutter sails against their short
    footed main and #2 genoa. They were definitely aware
    of us and tried their damedest, including a headsail
    change, but it was no contest.

       

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