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From: Peter Mazagran (no email)
Date: Mon Jun 25 2007 - 19:18:35 EDT
YES, they are called SPAM!
though this is a "world-cruising"-list most sit in a comfortable
American home with a broad band connection and never experienced the
joy of using a download connection that actually delivers 75baud,
though promised to be slightly faster, but that is not the only
problem, the second is, the connection fails every few minutes. Like
now, I enjoy at present a 300k broadband, but the connection never
stays alive for more than 2 minutes, then log out (?!) and log in.
If you ever sit 5h on a cellphone (international roaming of course) to
download just ONE spam with graphics (and that is their way nowadays
to overcome filters) and there is no way to stop it or else you will
never receive you important mails, then you know what I am talking
about. I had the pleasure, not only once.
Johns service is nice and interesting and he must live from ads to
finance it, no problem, but he does not need my visitors emails to
have it work.
See my critics however you like, I always learned more from a
complaining customer than the one not coming in. If I'd consider the
service useless, I would not write pages ;-))
Fair winds,
Peter
--- In , Peter Ogilvie <roverhi at dot dot dot > wrote:
>
> Are there any black helocopters in the house???
>
> Aloha
> Peter O.
>
> Peter Mazagran <mazagran at dot dot dot > wrote:
> Hi John,
> sorry for the Joe, I write my emails mostly at crazy times....
>
> Yes, your intention might be honest and whatever, but if you ever
> sailed you might know, what can break will break at the most
> inconvenient moment. I am technician, when I was young I trusted
> (almost)everything, until my little girl was born in summer 1985.
> Remember that year? For the next 10 years we only bought old milk
> powder, even more than 1000miles away cancer of the respiratory part
> is more common nowadays. It was the year with the largest atomar power
> plant disaster so far, Chernobyl, for sure, another one will come,
> only nobody knows where and when.
>
> What I want to say, you are forcingly gathering email addresses and
> names, even if you are honest, shit happens.It is not necessary to
> grant the service you are promising to collect those informations. Let
> your customers choose, provide 2 ways...
>
> I signed up, but will not continue as I will never give away anyones
> email address who trusted me his/hers.
>
> Fair winds in stormy days ;-)
>
> Peter
>
> --- In , John Noller <jcnoller@> wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > To try and address some of your concerns:
> >
> > Please review the Privacy link on any Sailtrac page. You control
> how your data and information is display. Sailtrac will not sell,
> disseminate contact information, or spam you or your friends. Period.
> The purpose of the "questions" is to determine your sailing or
> boating interests and few if any are mandatory and they are designed
> to help create the template for your personal, custom web pages and
> build your public profile. (Try a search from the Sailtrac Homepage
> and view a public postcard) and keep in mind you determine what is
> displayed there. Check out the "Help" to watch the tutorials for
> adding a trip, updating pages, and remote access features. The
> purpose of you adding the e-mail address and name of friends is so
> that if and when you travel offshore and do not have direct internet
> access and file a remote e-mail position report or make remote e-mail
> updates to your pages a system generated message can be sent to your
> contacts even when offshore and view
> > your position on your sites Google map and pull back weather
> information to display (if you choose to permit it) for that date and
> time and lat and long you filed. You are not obligated to add any
> friends to create an account and I recommend that until you get your
> comfort level up and play with our tools you don't bother and see for
> yourself that you are receiving e-mail spam. Give it a try, play with
> the site, and finish the registration process so you can see what the
> site permits and let me know what you think...it's not for everyone
> but not everyone is capable of programming their own webpages or
> developing and integrating maps, video, and remote access features.
> The choice is yours...
> >
> > John Noller
> >
> > Peter Mazagran <mazagran@> wrote:
> > No Joe,
> > you are collecting much more than necessary "mandatory" informations.
> > You say your service is free, looks like as there is no payment
> > involved at present, but you are collecting email addresses and
> > corresponding names, and this looks damned like selling them. When I
> > came to this stage of registration I was already fed up b>cause all
> > the other mandatory and silly questions, I have no "most special
> > sailing experience", some other inputs also show up differently in the
> > overview, but this might be small program flaws.
> >
> > But what is really annoying, all your arguments are for security and
> > then you are the one asking for private data. I see no reason to
> > supply you with my friends names and email addresses, if you want this
> > going (I would accept the ads as the service is free) I want to give
> > my friends an access code they might use or not. I suggest a
> > combination of my name encrypted plus a code I am free to select for
> > every friend, might even be his/her real nick.
> >
> > Peter
> >
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> >
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> >
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