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Re: [world-cruising] Nature and purpose of the list

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Date: Thu Jun 22 2006 - 08:03:08 EDT

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    In a message dated 22/06/2006 02:25:54 GMT Daylight Time,
     writes:

    On 6/21/06, Ahmet <> wrote:
    >
    > Pretty good summarization. It is unfortunate that there was nobody around
    > who knew a little bit more about this incident, or the weather patterns.
    >
    > Analysing this event is exactly what I wanted to do, I have that in the
    > past and got some fairly good results. One of them was Richard Woods
    > abandoned Catamaran, and the other the mishap on the Almesian en-route to
    > Bermuda.
    > A good friend of mine, and fellow club memberm Chris Ferrer was a crew on
    > Almesian. He has since then given 2 talks with slide shows for us to
    analyse
    > that event twhich led to the demise of the skipper.
    >
    > Perhaps it is my Engineering/Management background that believes in the
    > power of Case History's
    >
    > In any case, true .. I learned that there is remarkable little historical
    > data on conditions in the North Atlantic, and that it is difficult to
    > estimate wave heights from a fixed wing aircraft :)

    The US Coast Guard does follow up studies on all accidents involving loss of
    life on a US Flagged vessel, including pleasure craft. Some of these
    studies can be very detailed, where information exists. Others will always
    remain mysteries, as this one appears to be.

    You might want to give your local Coast Guard Marine Safety Office a call
    and ask about getting copies of these studies. Many are published and may
    be on line.

    Almost always, accidents aboard pleasure craft boil down to simple
    mistakes...mistakes that are familiar to all of us, but that for whatever
    reason were overlooked by the people involved. Things like singlehanders
    failing to wear a PFD and falling overboard...or departing a safe harbor in
    the face of horrific weather...or choosing the wrong strategy in the face of
    a storm...or failing to practice proper navigation...etc.

    Very little that's new.

    Since both Rosalie and Ahmet mentioned my comment about estimating wave
    heights from aircraft, please allow me to equivocate a bit...aircraft flying
    at relatively low levels - often helicopters - can estimate wave height
    quite well. However, fixed wing aircraft that usually conduct searches at
    much higher altitudes (1000 feet plus) will not be able to make those
    estimates accurately.

    -- 
    > Best,
    > Bryan  Genez
    > "Capella" V40-158
    > New Bern, NC
     
     
    i am sure some of you will have read these before but they are well  worth 
    reading and there are various themes running through all of theses  incidents 
    that being forwarned MIGHT 
    ensure we dont make the same mistake(s)  and end up in a similar  situation
    http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/LCSD.pdf
    Enjoy
    food  for thought
    cant wait to read the  comments
    regards
    David
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