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From: Ahmet (no email)
Date: Tue Jun 20 2006 - 12:25:47 EDT
I can not exactly see the colors on the chart. It is pretty poor quality.
But I thought they were changing to yellow. On second look though, I think you are right. The blue/yellow indicators are for historical not predicted data.
SO all we have is the observations of the coast guard crews who were flying in the SAR mission. I presume you have read the reports of 30 ft waves and gusts up to 108 knots.
Ahmet
"Rosalie B." <> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:52:45 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Well that is the point. Alberto went EXACTLY the way predicted, with the wind speeds PREDICTED. THis chart was available before they left.
You don't give any proof of that. The URL doesn't have any predicted
wind speed, just a predicted direction for a low pressure area.
>
> SInce it was in the open atlantic, and was moving away from the US, there was not too much interest.
> http://www.canada.com/globaltv/maritimes/story.html?id=d24b80d3-34e0-4367-bb75-ca043f305b88&k=53172
> Is one independent story I found in Halifax, which was 200 nm north. If they had 78 km/h, it is not surprizing that if would be gusting to 108 (that is the max observed in the news report about Free Spirit)
>
> Also, this was not a "hurricane" any more .. i.e. rotating. It was in a straight track, fairly localized heawy weather, which just blows over.
> A friend of mine was on the "Almesian" last year on his way from Newport to Bermuda. The skipper lost his life, he and 3 other crew were eventually airlifted, another crew was picked up from the ocean the next day.
> THey had steady wind of 30-40 knots, and that was enough to create 30 ft waves and bring a boat, that had made it to Bermuda 25 times, down.
>
> These poor souls just happend to be in the wron spot in the wrong day. Had they have been 100 miles further west, they would have to deal only with 20-30 knot wind speeds. That is formidable too, but surviveable. This is based on US Buoy data. Canadian Buoyu data does unfortunately have no history.
>
> wrote:
>
>In a message dated 20/06/2006 16:25:28 GMT Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
>http://www.noaawatch.gov/images/alberto_trak_lg.gif
>
>If you can see the colors you will see that Alberto intensified once it
>reached the ocean around the Chesapeake
>Ahmet
>www.sailnomad.com
>
>Well, IF you look at that chart PROPERLY you will see the 'ACTUAL' track
>stopped on the 14th in well inland - when NOAA lost interest in this decaying
>depression. Anything further is only a projection. Can i suggest that IF
>Alberto had strengthened into even a Tropical Storm it would have been charted as
>such - for sure if it became a Cat 3 hurricane there would be some evidence
>of that somewhere on the NOAA site.
>
>I still have not seen anything to make me change my mind re these 100 knot
>winds - still don't believe that.
>
>regards
>
>David
I agree - there may have been a storm, but it wasn't a hurricane, and
a predicted track doesn't prove that the storm did or didn't do what
the predicted track says.
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