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From: Rosalie B. (no email)
Date: Mon Jun 05 2006 - 00:01:23 EDT
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:44:31 -0400, you wrote:
>On 6/2/06, larry whitesell <> wrote:
>>
>> One day in the summer of 1987 I was aboard a 38' wooden fishing
>> boat. This was a really stoutly built, very heavy old boat, with a
>> large diesel engine, a full load of fuel, and a bunch of salmon in the
>> hold. We were tooling around a beautifull deepwater bay along the eastern
>> side of the Alaskan Pennisula somewhere west of Augustine Island (the big
>> volcano). Suddenly the boat hit something very large and solid that wasn't
>> visible from the boat, as the object was submerged, and the sun was in our
>> eyes, reflecting across the water, not letting us see into the clear
>> water. It was a very sudden, hard thump that instantly raised the boat
>> up and stopped it dead. But in a moment, almost as quick, we settled back
>> down and were able to motor on.
>> The mass of the object we hit must of been tremendous, as it instantly
>> stopped our boat of many tons. The object did this while it was free
>> floating, as it was nudged out of the way by the collision. So it's static
>> inertia was considerable.
>> At the time we assumed it was a giant log, but no doubt it could of
>> been a large container. The boat was undamaged. Luckily we were going very
>> slow. With any speed at all, I'm sure we would've done serious damage to
>> the bow.
>
>Seems unlikely to me to be a container, as that location is relatively
>protected and not a place where flotsam from trans-Pacific shipping would be
>likely to be found.
>
We have often found currents where we would have sworn that there
would be none, so I'm not convinced that you are correct about where a
container would or would not be. Unless you are an oceanographer and
have made a study of the subject.
>Having struck a few saturated logs that seemed to live below the surface
>with a ship I was on in the PNW, that seems somewhat more plausable to me.
We have struck submerged logs many times. IMHO they aren't big enough
to stop a boat like the one described (or ours). Unless they are
sequoia or something, I don't think they have sufficient mass and it
is not a concentrated enough shape. That is a narrow round shape
isn't going to be as much of a problem as a large cube shape. When we
hit a submerged log, we can sometimes hear it roll down the length of
the boat, and sometimes it just bumps into it, but it doesn't in any
way stop it. We never see what we have hit.
You keep saying that you haven't seen any of these containers, but I'd
be surprised if you or anyone else could see them - they are probably
floating under the surface anywhere from a few inches to a few feet.
>Glad no one (or the boat) was hurt.
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