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Re: [world-cruising] the danger of semi submerged containers

From: Rosalie B. (no email)
Date: Fri Jun 02 2006 - 20:27:02 EDT

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    On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:55:37 +1000, you wrote:

    >I've never actually seen a container at sea, or washed up on a beach.
    >
    >Has anyone else?
    >
    >I've certainly seen lots of whales and floating logs.

    Well I've never seen a whale. So should I conclude that they don't
    exist? I've not seen many floating logs either, although I assume
    that's what's hitting the hull when we go through the Dismal Swamp
    Canal. They sound more solid than dead bodies.

    >
    >http://www.psyberspace.com.au/photos/whitsundays/whales1.html
    >
    >Dave
    >> Bryan Genez <> wrote:
    >> On 6/2/06, Ken James <> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > In fact this is a real and signifigent risk, the risk is not just
    >> inflated
    >> > sea stories. There are two main reasons for that, first there are
    >> hundreds
    >> > if not thousands of them at any one time and many are in areas where
    >> > sailboats travel, second there is no adequate way to spot them.
    >> > I personally have met two crusisers who had collosions with them.-Ken
    >>
    >>
    >> I'm not saying it can't happen or has never happened, only that the threat
    >> is not nearly as large as some suggest. Personally, I've never met anyone
    >> who has had a collision with a container, nor have I seen an email
    >> from such
    >> a person. I have, however, met many sailors who delight in fabricating
    >> stories of the dangers "out thar".
    >>
    >> The physics of containers will result in nearly every one sinking shortly
    >> after they're lost overboard. Containers are steel. They are not air- or
    >> watertight. Typically, containers are filled to capacity, because the
    >> shippers charge just as much to ship an empty container as a full
    >> one. So,
    >> for a container to remain "semi-submerged" - i.e., partially afloat - it
    >> must be filled with cargo that will displace the weight of the container
    >> plus any water it ships. That can happen; it just won't happen often.
    >>
    >> So, when you hear about ten gazillion containers that are lost overboard
    >> every year, understand that almost every one ends up on the sea bottom
    >> very
    >> quickly. They're not out to get you.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best,
    >> Bryan Genez
    >> "Capella" V40-158
    >> New Bern, NC
    >> /1/2006
    >>
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