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Re: [world-cruising] Re: Circumnavigating in a Power Boat - impressive passages

From: Peter Ogilvie (no email)
Date: Mon May 08 2006 - 02:07:02 EDT

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    All you say about sailboats is true and certainly what you say about power boats. The virtues of a powerboat are exactly why I don't like them. To be cooped up in a pilot house while I pointed the boat is BORING. You can do that on a cruise ship and you don't have to drive or cook. It's the interaction with the wind, water, and waves that I love about sailing. Maybe I'm a masochist, but really like the challenge of those trips to the foredeck and working the boat to get the most out of what nature offers. Some people like being there, others like getting there, that's the reason that there are different kinds of boats.
       
      Aloha
      Peter O.

    Peter Pisciotta <> wrote:
    > Ok, so you're telling us that the risk of spending 3 days in 20'
    > seas on a powerboat is "mechanical failure" and on a sailboat
    > it's "personal injury". I don't think so.

    My opinion is that sailboats have a higher risk profile than an
    offshore-capable trawler of similar length. The foredeck of any boat
    is a dangerous place - add-in deck clutter, flying stuff like sheets
    and jib-clews, and you start to understand the source of my opinion.
    The less time you spend outside of the cockpit or pilothouse, the
    less likely you are to be injured or lost at sea. Sailing is more
    physical and interactive which has its pluses and minuses.

    Before switching careers last year, I spent the previous 5 years as a
    professional delivery captain (www.seaskills.com) on the Pacific
    Coast based out of San Francisco. In each of those years, I did
    around 18,000 offshore miles, most of which on trawler yachts, but a
    healthy percentage on sailboats too (probably 10,000 miles or so
    total). My experience was that sailboats are less comfortable, have
    poorer visibility, are more exposed, and often require crew make a
    trip to the foredeck to clear rigging, shorten sail, unjam something,
    or lord knows what, all on a heeled deck. I have made more forays to
    the foredeck of a sailboat on a single delivery than all trawler
    deliveries combined. And it never happens in calm weather. People
    don't generally fall off trawlers whereas COB incidents on sailboats
    are not unheard of (think swinging boom, whipping clews, etc). Add-in
    fatigue and exposure, and the chances of injury are higher on a
    sailboat, especially when sailing short handed.

    On the other hand, trawlers have high, protected bows that are
    generally drier than a sailboat. Sailboats are generally slower and
    more exposed to weather systems, and less maneuverable when crossing
    a bar/running an inlet. Instrumentation aboard a sailboat is not
    generally as visible (radar may be down below without a repeater at
    the helm), and a whole host of other small items that add-up to a
    increased risk profile. Contrast that to an ergonomically friendlymfy
    pilothouse with adjustable helm chair aboard a stabilized trawler
    with all instruments within easy reach.

    I will fully admit that if funds are really short and crossing oceans
    is the itinerary, there's no way to economicallly cruise a powerboat.
    But a new Valiant 42 or Island Packet 45 is about the same price as a
    new Nordhavn 40. At the higher end of the market, there's parity.
    Heck, look at Steve & Linda Dashew's newest offering: a powerboat.

    Look, I realize this is a sail-oriented list, and this may be heresy
    (or off-topic - please let me know). But there are some really cool
    options out there, and more are coming. Personally, I'm not sold on
    crossing oceans in a small powerboat - the loss of main propulsion
    scares the hell out of me. But that's the only reason I'd possibly
    chose a sailboat over a powerboat.

    Peter
    Willard 36 Trawler
    San Francisco

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