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[world-cruising] Re: Circumnavigating in a Power Boat - impressive passages

From: Peter Pisciotta (no email)
Date: Sat May 06 2006 - 15:03:12 EDT

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    > For me, the primary
    > disadvantage is the boat's ride. Small boats
    > without active stabilization
    > tend to roll unpredictably, often in
    > fairly gentle conditions. In contrast,
    > a sail boat (under sail) tends to stay more
    > or less at the same angle of
    > heel.

    All power boats are not the same. I can tell you Willard owners (full
    displacement, double-enders, heavy ballast, low profile) tend to use
    stabilization about 10% of the time when offshore. Nordhavn, which
    are more plush but all that space comes at a price (bit more weight
    aloft - still rock-solid boats, just a different design principle),
    tend to run stabilizers all the time. In the power-boat world,
    there's a bit of a holy war between outrigger stabilizers (paravanes)
    and hydraulic stabilizers. To my tastes, steadying sails, unless
    quite large, are generally minimally useful except in strong beam
    winds.

    Its hard to describe the motion of a full-displacement, ballasted
    trawler. It's a gentle roll from side to side, maybe 5 degrees or so,
    not enough to knock over a soda can or anything. I rather like it.

    Most folks who buy an offshore-capable trawler had a lot of
    experience in sailboats. They cite comfort, safety, and lack of
    heeling as their motivators to go from sail to power. They also like
    the light, airy cabin and the home-like amenities like washers and
    dryers and air conditioning which is why sailboats are creeping up in
    size too. For me, I just got cold one summer heading north on the
    California coast aboard a sailboat. I got into power boats (trawlers,
    actually) and have never looked back, though I still spend several
    days offshore each year on a sailboat.

    As far as cost, one post compared $7000 for sails versus Idlewild's
    $20,000 for fuel. Perhaps, but sailors generally run their engine
    quite a bit so there's still fuel cost on top of sails. And for a
    comparably sized sailboat, spars, sails, rigging, running rigging,
    wind instruments, winches, poles, furlers, etc. add-up really fast -
    I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a ~55-foot sailboat have $10K-
    $15K in 2/3-speed ST winches alone (more if there's a spinnaker
    setup), and another $1000 or more in sheets/halyards. Given the total
    cost of ownership, the operating difference between the two is
    probably negligible, it just comes down to personal taste and
    preference and where a cruiser is willing to take risk: because
    sailing involves an elevated level of exposed, physical deck-work,
    there's a bit more risk of personal injury aboard a sailboat. On a
    powerboat, the risk is mechanical failure. Commercial fisherman have
    the worst of both worlds - lots of exposed, physical deck work
    combined with a reliance on their power plant. Just depends on what
    you're comfortable with.

    Just a different perspective but the goal is the same: love of the
    ocean and adventure.

    Peter
    Willard 36 Trawler
    San Francisco

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