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RE: [world-cruising] Re: To Broker or Not To Broker

From: Patrick Harrington (no email)
Date: Sun Apr 02 2006 - 17:59:53 EDT

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    Based on feedback received so far, I did a search on YachtWorld for boats in
    Florida only, and then sorted them by city. Of the 270 boats returned from
    my search criteria, 47 were in Ft Lauderdale, which was almost 2.5 times as
    many boats as were in St. Petersburg and almost 3 times as many as were in
    Miami. It seems that I will have the best selection of boats to look at in
    Ft. Lauderdale. So, I guess I'll take a trip to Ft. Lauderdale this summer
    and look at as many different boats that fit my criteria as possible. I
    made a list of a few brokers in the Ft. Lauderdale area. I'll send them my
    criteria and let them propose boats for me to look at. Based on their
    responses, I'll pick maybe two of them to meet with when I go down there.
    The brokers I picked are: Transatlantic Yacht Sales, Jordan Yacht and Ship
    Co., Bollman Yachts, SGA Yachts, Horizon Marine Center and 4Yacht, Inc. If
    anyone has any experience with any of them, please let me know whether it
    was good or bad.

    Per Ken's response, I know fairly well what I want in terms of criteria, but
    there are several makes of boat that would satisfy most of my criteria.
    Except for my little 18' trailerable, the only boats I've sailed are
    Beneteau's and one custom-made Cartwright-style cutter. I know I don't want
    a Beneteau and won't find another like Free Radical (the Cartwright-style
    cutter). If I had more experience than I do and could narrow down what I
    want to a single manufacturer or even two, I would definitely follow your
    suggestion. Given that this will be my first major boat purchase (and the
    fact that I'm stuck in Kansas for now) I think it best that I go with a
    broker. I'm just hoping I find a good one and don't end up with a
    "nightmare" story at the end. I'll list some of my criteria at the end of
    this post for anyone interested in viewing and commenting. Some of my
    criteria are going to be hard to find in combination with others, so I
    expect the boat I get will be a compromise of competing criteria.

    Since I plan to keep the boat on the Mississippi Gulf Coast for a few months
    after I buy it, I also looked for brokers in Mississippi, but there were
    only 5 listed in YachtWorld and they seem to mostly be powerboat brokers. I
    did make a note to contact Southern River Yacths and American Gulf Yacht
    Sales, though.

    What I want in a boat
    1. Cutter Rig (would settle for sloop if everything else about the boat
    were perfect)
    2. LOA between 38 ft and 48 ft
    3. Fiberglass hull (aluminum or steel would be ok if in excellent
    condition and sufficient other criteria met)
    4. Full skeg-hung rudder
    5. Medium to heavy displacement
    6. Full, modified full (cutout forefoot) or modified fin keel
    6.1. Good performance to windward, ability to point high
    6.2. Good righting moment
    6.3. At least moderate ability to steer while backing under engine power
    6.4. My preference would be a wide short fin, with plenty of balast
    7. Draft not much more than 6 ft and not much less than 5 ft
    8. Sugar scoop transom would be nice
    9. Aft cockpit is preferable, but I also want a nice aft cabin with
    decent headroom, so that may dictate a center cockpit
    10. Little or no wood topside (this will be a hard one, I love the
    "classic" look)
    11. No huge portlights, so pilothouse boats are probably out
    12. 100 gal fresh water tankage at the very minimum, preferably 150 or
    better
    13. 100 gal diesel tankage at the very minimum
    14. Two cabins (a V-berth guest cabin and an aft owners cabin)
    15. Two heads, both with showers
    16. Keel-stepped mast

    Additional Extras
    1. Roller furling jib and staysail (but not main)
    2. Windvane steering in addition to Autopilot
    3. Watermaker
    4. Generator
    5. DC refrigeration instead of or in addition to engine-driven
    6. Transom or cockpit shower head
    7. Pump and hose rigged in chain locker for saltwater washdown of chain
    when raising anchor
    8. Dodger and bimini
    9. Arch and davits for dingy
    10. Radar
    11. SSB radio
    12. Solar panels
    13. Wind generator
    14. Separate shower compartment in at least one head
    15. Second sail track on mast for storm sail
    16. At least one watertight bulkhead would be nice
    17. Inverter
    18. Deck drains to catch rain water
    19. Electric windlass

     
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