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Re: [world-cruising] Greek Islands/Owning a charter boat

From: Chuck Morford (no email)
Date: Wed Aug 03 2005 - 15:14:38 EDT

  • Next message: Sal & Janet Mannuccia: "Re: [world-cruising] Greek Islands/Owning a charter boat"

    I haven't actually bought a boat for charter, but
    I did talk to a SunSail rep at Annapolis a couple
    of years ago.
    My impression was that you came out of a 5 year
    charter with the boat about half paid for.

    So, you end up with a 5 year old sailboat, still
    owing $50k-$75k...If everything has gone well...

    Is that not the case?

    --- wrote:

    > Thanks - I've gotten the info from Sunsail and
    > Moorings but thought I'd ask the list and get
    > an impartial answer - thanks for providing
    > that! Other than the liability of carrying a
    > large loan and the possibility of people
    > deciding to do other stuff than sail (!) it
    > seems to be an ideal way to buy a 5 or 6 year
    > old boat for minimal $ with the 3-5 weeks of
    > sailing per year icing on the cake - assuming
    > all goes well.
    >
    > I assume there's some historical stats showing
    > the % of time a boat is chartered?
    >
    > Thanks again --
    > Sincerely,
    > Larry T A Blood Test for your oil -
    > www.youroil.net
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Dwight Yachuk
    > To:
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:16 PM
    > Subject: RE: [world-cruising] Greek
    > Islands/Owning a charter boat
    >
    >
    > It's true.
    >
    > Go to the sunsail website and read about
    > owning a charter.
    >
    > Basically the bank buys the boat, you put it
    > incharter for 3-5 years, the company manages
    > the bookings and boat maintenance, you get 2-3
    > weeks a year to sail and if everything goes
    > according to plan the charters pay for the bank
    > loan, management fees and boat maintenance. At
    > the end of the period you get your used boat
    > back.
    >
    > If things don't go so well, there aren't
    > enough charters booked to pay the costs and
    > you're on the hook for whatever is left to be
    > paid, and you get back a boat that's been
    > throughly trashed and needs a major refit
    > before you can sail her.
    >
    > Having said all that, we bought a great
    > catamaran out of charter. She's too old to be
    > put back in but I'd consider going this route
    > as the cheapest way to sail 3-5 weeks a year.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From:
    > [mailto:]On
    > Behalf Of
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:57 PM
    > To:
    > Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Greek Islands
    >
    >
    > Are you happy with the financial arrangement?
    > Their advertisements make it sound like you
    > don't have any major expenses, someone else
    > makes the payments, Moorings manages all
    > charters and you get to use the boat quite a
    > lot.
    >
    > Is the boat yours at the end of 5 or 6 years?
    >
    > It sounds like something too good to be true.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > Larry T
    > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Sal & Janet Mannuccia
    > To:
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:30 AM
    > Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Greek Islands
    >
    >
    > We are owners of a Jeanneau SO 49 in the
    > Moorings charter fleet. They call it a M494.
    > We get to use our boat or other 494s in their
    > fleet around the world; at all their Mooring
    > Bases. We use our boat in the BVI and anywhere
    > else when we use other owners' boats it is
    > referred to as a reciprical boat or charter.
    >
    > As owners we only have to pay $60/day upto
    > 14 days and nothing after 14 days.
    >
    > Sal
    >
    > Imre Lendvay <> wrote:
    > Hey Sal,
    > Educate me. What is a recipricol? Is it
    > like a boat
    > co-op?
    > Em
    >
    >
    > --- Sal & Janet Mannuccia
    > <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > We are bare boating with the Moorings in
    > Kos. We
    > > have a recipricol M494 in Kos. There
    > will be four
    > > of us on this trip.
    > >
    > > Sal
    > >
    > >
    > > SAL & JANET MANNUCCIA
    > > s/y NIRVANA, M494
    > > TORTOLA
    > >
    > >
    > >
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