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From: Dwight Yachuk (no email)
Date: Fri Jun 03 2005 - 07:53:27 EDT
Look for cats coming out of charter and don't look down your nose at them. Typically they get motored more than sailed and only in a small geographical area. Most of the wear and tear is cosmetic from partying. The rigging and sails are often in good shape.
Look closely at the engines which will have a lot of hours. Look for recently replaced engines. Check the ammas for groundings.
Check with the charter companies for boats coming out of charter. We got our Jeanneau Lagoon 37 for just over $100K. The most serious thing needing replacing was the cushions.
Here's a link to a good article about buying out of charter: http://www.usual-suspects-sailing.com/
dwight
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From: [mailto:]On Behalf Of Jon Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Choosing a cat
Affordability, I suppose, varies a lot depending on the customer. In my book, I'd like to find a world cruiser under 100K, which is easy to do if shopping for a monohull. In fact it's not difficult too difficult to find something under 50k in a monohull. My experience suggests the very bottom of the multihull market in this regard is the low 100's. If I'm wrong, please educate me, I'm no expert. The only multihulls that get down around this price tag are 10 year old (nothing wrong with that) Gemini's (are they really blue water capable)? So please, seriously, educate me as to what cats in the 100k range are really blue water capable? am I wrong about the Gemini's?
Personally I fell in love with a Manta 42 Mk II at a boat show last year... and have wanted a cat ever since, but I keep having to remind myself that I can't afford one (new or used). This is one of those situations I'd LOVE to be proven wrong.
-Jon
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From: Dwight Yachuk
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [world-cruising] Re: Choosing a cat
How about $100K?
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From: [mailto:]On Behalf Of Jon Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:57 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Choosing a cat
Ok clearly I used poor sentence structure. I'm well aware there are blue water cats, my point/question was which of them are "affordable" and/or suitable for a first time boat buyer.
Hint... I don't consider $200k+ for a used boat affordable.
-Jon
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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Choosing a cat
In a message dated 01/06/2005 13:58:44 GMT Daylight Time,
writes:
Hi Jon,
I think many cats are capable of blue water cruising, Jeanneaus and
Beneteaus come to mind. It's just on how you set them up.
Well, since every Leopard cat (from 38 feet to around 65 feet now i think)
is delivered on its own keels from South Africa - 90% to the Caribbean i think
they have proved their blue water capabilities and their bridge deck
clearance is well very low too on the 38 through 47 foot models not so sure about
the bigger ones. I only know of one Beneteau cat the Bennie Blue and i would
not call that a blue water cat but then it is all about blue water people with
blue water mindsets - sheeesh look at Rosie Swale going round the world on a
cat enfamilie eons ago when that was a totally off the wall thing to do.
regards
David
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