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Date: Wed Jun 01 2005 - 07:38:51 EDT
Jim wrote:<<managed to turn her off of everything else by
yelling at her), so he sold it. >>>
I think this happens to numerous couples - the husband is hot to sail and the wife is willing to try until she gets yelled at or scared - the 2 "no-no's" when trying to convince a spouse that sailing is fun. While it can be frustrating when your partner hasn't learned all the nautical terms prople must remember that nautical terminology is incredibly boring and on the surface seemingly un-necessary. But in an emergency of course, it's mandatory that communications are very specific - and the need for knowing the terms (like sheets, halyards, etc) can mean the difference between tragedy and something to laugh about after it's over.
I managed to scare my wife (and myself) when sailing out C27 from Annapolis to Yorktown - got too far out in the Ches. Bay shipping lanes and lost sight of land - no big deal to me but a milestone for my wife - and the waves got bigger and bigger. But - and this is a big recommendation for the Catalina 27 - I never had any doubts the boat would get us thru this quandry. It took the wind and waves without a wimper and took us home none the worse for wear. My wife even went forward to secure the anchor because she didn't think she could recover *me* if I fell overboard but she *knew* I could handle the boat and get back to her. And as we moved into the creek and our home marina (and went aground) she said made the most wonderful comment I could imagine, "I'm ready to go again!"
So, when with your spouse, be considerate and make it fun for them - the alternative is not going to make you very happy.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, Catalina 27)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rosalie B.
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Choosing a cruiser
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:34:39 -0700, you wrote:
>Catalina 25 quarters are just right for one and "romantic" for 2. Still, I
>can take my wife, 2 teenage daughters and 2 little dogs for 4 or 5 days (as
>long as there is a beach near by). The boat has a pop-top that greatly
>increases interior space when popped up and covered with the enclosure.
>
>I don't think living aboard for an extended duration would be practical. I
>sailed solo San Diego to Santa Barbara island last summer for 3 weeks (1
>week with the family on Catalina).
>
>For $5000 and no trailer I'd expect the older boat to be in excellent shape.
>"Distressed" C25s can be had for as little as $1500.
My SIL bought one (sans trailer and rudder, but with all the sails and
other equipment) for about $500, but he then had to buy a trailer. My
daughter wouldn't sail with him (she manages a power boat, but only as
a passenger - my SIL managed to turn her off of everything else by
yelling at her), so he sold it. I think he lost money.
>
>I am the VIce-Commodore of the Catalina 25 National Association. VIsit us,
>the forums are open to all http://www.catalina25-250.org/
><http://www.catalina25-250.org/>
>
>I have an extensive web site with lots of photos of my boat and all of our
>local sailing groups activities www.indiscipline.org
><http://www.indiscipline.org>
>
>I really believe that a C25, 27 or 30 is the right starter boat. This is
>the boat I am using "between cruises". I already did San Diego to the
>Bahamas. Next will be San Diego to Europe.
>
>-JimB
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: larry whitesell [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:06 PM
>To:
>Subject: RE: [world-cruising] Choosing a cruiser
>
>I like what you are saying. $5,000 opens the door to almost anyone. What
>shape would you expect a Catalina 25 to be in for $5,000? How tight are
>quarters on your boat? How is living aboard??
>
>"Baumgart, James" <> wrote:I currently have a
>Catalina 25 and sail, race, and cruise everywhere. A
>honda 8 HP outboard works great but it means I actually sail a lot. Only
>cost $5000. Can be trailered anywhere. Go small, simple, and go now.
>
>The dinghy on your blue water boat will cost more than this. Meanwhile, go
>sailing, learn, enjoy. When its time, give the boat away or sell it,
>whatever you get consider it cheap lessons. "Lessons" on the big boat will
>be very expensive (and I don't mean a hired captain, I mean the lessons
>nature gives you when the anchor drags or docking in a crosswind, ....).
>
>-JimB
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:14 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Choosing a cruiser
>
>
>I agree completely with the choice of a Catalina 30 or even a Catalina 27.
>There's a huge number out there at all price ranges. They're easy to
>re-sell also - as mentioned. My Catalina 27 sold in less than 2 weeks -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Baumgart, James
> To: ''
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [world-cruising] Choosing a cruiser
>
> Get a Catalina 30, much better sail boat than the Hunter and easy to
> re-sell. Don't be afraid of an old one in good condition. Have fun,
>learn
> the basics, without spending a lot of money on your first boat.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory david Stempel [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:23 AM
> To:
> Subject: [world-cruising] Choosing a cruiser
>
> We are currently looking for our FIRST sail boat. We aren't ready to head
> for the Azores just yet, so we are considering a boat that will give us a
> good foundation from which to begin our future in world sailing. We'll
>move
> up from this point.
>
> Are there any boats to stay away from?
>
> We are looking at the Hunter line in about the late nineties, 30 ft range
>as
>
> our first boat, are these good boats?
>
> Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
grandma Rosalie
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