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[world-cruising] Re: Retirement and boat materials

From: cirejay (no email)
Date: Thu Mar 03 2005 - 18:53:57 EST

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    Worry about yourself, Bill, because I'm in complete agreement:-)
    Reading is great, and important, but one has got to do it.
    eric S/V Nebaras

    --- In , "Baumgart, James"
    <james dot baumgart at s dot dot dot > wrote:
    > Hi Bill, I find myself in a similar situation, except I live in
    San Diego
    > now (warm) and I've already completed a year-long cruise with my
    family.
    > Today I have a Catalina 25 that I sail nearly every day and take
    on local
    > cruises in the summer. You asked for links, so take a look at mine
    > www.indiscipline.org <http://www.indiscipline.org> you'll find
    my entire
    > year-long voyage documented in words and pictures, plus lots of
    stuff about
    > my current 1978 Catalina 25 pocket cruiser.
    >
    > Everyone is different, but here is my thinking (along the lines of
    the
    > question you posed).
    >
    > Get a small boat now and sail it in all weather, all conditions,
    and daysail
    > plus go on cruises. A Catalina 25 can be had for $5000 and can
    take you a
    > lot of places, especially with a trailer. There's a great owners
    group (I
    > am Vice Commodore of the Catalina 25/250 National Association) at
    > http://www.catalina25-250.org/ <http://www.catalina25-250.org/>
    I love my
    > C25 and a C25, 27 or 30 would certainly give you some
    > sailing/cruising/maintenance experience right now without tieing
    up a lot of
    > money. Sail your pocket cruiser as much as possible, you'll need
    the
    > experience and to keep the dream alive. You also need to get alot
    of
    > experience with fiberglass and epoxy repairs. With a trailerable
    cruiser
    > you can go anywhere from Key West to the North Channel in Canada.
    >
    > You may not be able to take your loved ones on a year-long cruise
    like I
    > did, but you can certainly bareboat charter in the Carribean for a
    couple of
    > weeks each year.
    >
    > Get into your local racing circles and crew on as many boats as
    possible.
    >
    > Read. Recent "how-to" books that you should get are "How to Sail
    Around the
    > World" Hal Roth, and "Modern Cruising" Don Dodds. Plus thousands
    of others.
    > I am never not reading a sailing book (or 3).
    >
    > Sell the house and everything when you retire. Buy a older,
    fiberglass
    > cruiser with room enough, but not too much. For me and my wife as
    crew, I
    > think it will be in the 36 to 40 foot range, with a Cal 39 seeming
    like a
    > very nice choice - but there are lots out there and the choice of
    the actual
    > boat is not very important as long as you can be comfortable on it
    and the
    > structure meets the needs of your cruising destinations. So many
    boats
    > don't have adequate tankage (ex Catalian 36). Don't buy the boat
    now! 1
    > year before you leave is early enough.
    >
    > Lets say I'm expecting to net about $500K from the sale of my
    small farm.
    > I'll buy a boat for no more than $75K, and have about a $25K
    budget for
    > repairs and equipment. I'll put about $300K aside for buying a
    condo for
    > when we get back from a 5 year cruise San Diego - Carribean -
    Europe. $100K
    > plus my retirement income in the kitty. Expected cruising budget
    is
    > $100/day. We'll be able to stay out for 5 years till the kitty is
    dry.
    > We'll have medical insurance (early retirement - planning to leave
    my
    > Government job at 57 years old). Your numbers will be different,
    but you
    > get the idea. Don't go cruising with a house, cars, etc. you
    can't use.
    > Don't spend all the money on the boat and equipment. Don't buy a
    boat that
    > will take too much maintenance (wood, steel, aluminum). I'd stay
    away from
    > Ferrocement as its an unknown and unlikely to be a highly
    performing boat.
    > Do buy a well known boat, well maintained, well equipped, where
    the flaws
    > are known and fixes available. $75K to $100K gives you thousands
    of
    > choices. Don't buy new. Get a boat that performs well in light
    air, can be
    > reefed down for heavy, and has a decent underbody for where you
    are going.
    > Don't wait too long!
    >
    > When you get back, sell the boat, swallow the anchor, and you've
    got maybe
    > $350K to decide where you want to live. I'll probably get a condo
    near
    > Mission Bay and go back sailing my C25 every day until the day
    they dump my
    > ashes in the Pacific from its cockpit ... but who knows? Maybe we
    won't
    > come back and live in Malta or Barcelona. Maybe we'll retire in
    Costa Rica?
    > Live in New Zealand? Al options are open since we have money in
    the bank
    > and not in a house we can't use.
    >
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