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From: Chuck Morford (no email)
Date: Fri Jan 21 2005 - 17:12:09 EST
I'm not put off so much by the cartridge
scheme...Clever people will be able to figure out
how to refill their own.
After reading the FAQ, I'd be more troubled by
the need to replace the "stack", the core of the
unit, every 2 years or possibly even sooner...
--- Joe - G4XRZ <>
wrote:
>
> Hi Janna & Len
> Many thanks for the info.
> A few problems I perceive with the cell.
> It would appear that you cant refill the
> methanol cartridges. That
> is crazy.. you would have to have a supply of
> them (about 120 !) to
> last for a year aghhh ! :-) .... they are no
> doubt expensive.
> Even if you could fill them, the availability
> of methanol is poor to
> non existent in remote countries as most of the
> best cruising
> grounds are. The power output is pretty poor,
> about 60-70 amps in a
> day..
> I think the technology needs a few more years
> !.
>
> I looked into water cooled diesels last night,
> way too heavy - about
> 200-300 lbs !.. so air cooled it will have to
> be. I think mounting
> it in a cockpit locker is probably the best
> option. Some of theready
> made generators using the aircooled engine have
> sound proofing
> enclosure so the engine obviously is quite
> happy in a fairly closed
> environment. I think it would be reasonable
> straight forward to add
> sound proofing if necessary and a liftable
> small vent in the
> locker ?.
>
> Joe.
>
> --- In , Len den
> Besten
> <lendenbesten at y dot dot dot > wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > I a dutch newsgroup my attention was drawn to
> a
> > fuel-cell. Take a look at
> > http://www.max-power.com/fuelcell/
> > It makes running the engine for charging
> obsolete and
> > it's capable of running a modern low-pressure
> > watermaker, silently.....!
> > On the other hand it is costly and poses the
> need for
> > another tyoe of fuel (I found a price of USD
> 0.95/Gal
> > somewhere for methanol).
> > But it's another, elegant way of getting
> power when
> > you need it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Janna&Len
> > S/v Present
> >
> >
> > --- Joe - G4XRZ <captainslarty at n dot dot dot > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > As for brands, there are many brands, but
> apparantly
> > > only one maker
> > > in china. Yanmar, Kama, etc
> > >
> >
>
http://gangfa.en.alibaba.com/product/50011314/50065491/Engines/Diesel
> > > _Engine.html
> > >
> > > Above is a link to one site. If you look on
> ebay, or
> > > machinary
> > > supplies, ie generaots and water pumps, you
> will see
> > > the very same
> > > diesel as it appears to be the only one,
> but branded
> > > by all// the
> > > Yanmar will cost you around 1000 to 1500
> dollars ! -
> > > for the
> > > name !.. complete new pumps with frame can
> be bought
> > > for around 450
> > > dollars on ebay, new.. I beleive they are
> ALL the
> > > exact same engine
> > > from the same source.
> > >
> > > Joe.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ,
> "barry
> > > Brazier"
> > > <b dot w dot brazier at b dot dot dot > wrote:
> > > > Sounds a good idea. A lot better and more
> > > efficient than running
> > > the main engine to charge batteries.
> > > > Even with solar panels I still have to
> run the
> > > engine for an hour
> > > a day.
> > > > I keep power use to a minimum just self
> steering,
> > > lights, radio,
> > > navigation. The two 75W solar panels are
> not enough.
> > > > What brand of small diesels are cheap
> enough?
> > > >
> > > > Barry
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Joe - G4XRZ
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:34 AM
> > > > Subject: [world-cruising] DIY Power
> station and
> > > backup high
> > > capacity pump ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys
> > > > I have been pondering the benefits and
> > > practicality of a small
> > > DC
> > > > generator set that doesn¡¦t cost a
> fortune and
> > > is home built..
> > > >
> > > > Specs as follows..
> > > > Small diesel driven unit powering 100
> amp
> > > alternator (Motor
> > > vehicle
> > > > unit with regulator removed to gain
> access to
> > > field excitation
> > > from
> > > > an external controller.
> > > > Other uses ¡V as an emergency pump
> unit..
> > > >
> > > > The alternator would need apx 2HP to
> drive it at
> > > max output, a 3-
> > > 4
> > > > HP unit would do.
> > > > I came across various diesel portable
> pumps
> > > using the same
> > > single
> > > > cylinder air cooled diesel as yanmar
> sell, but
> > > at dirt cheap
> > > prices..
> > > > With an adapter plate the alternator
> could be
> > > driven from the
> > > output
> > > > shaft directly and the original belt
> drive of
> > > the alternator
> > > used to
> > > > drive the original pump now offset or a
> pucka
> > > clutched pump
> > > (Engine
> > > > driven bilge pump converted).. To power
> the pump
> > > you depower the
> > > > alternator field and engage the clutch
> on the
> > > pump..
> > > > The engine is electric start with a
> pull cord
> > > backup. Mounted
> > > > internally in the boat / engine room..
> a small
> > > impellor pump
> > > could
> > > > inject water into the exhaust pipe
> linking it to
> > > the outside
> > > world ¡V
> > > > at the connection between the existing
> manifold
> > > and the new
> > > pipe..
> > > > nice n quiet.. (relatively ! fº)
> > > >
> > > > It would also be possible to link the
> belt
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