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From: John Drayton (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 29 2004 - 16:31:31 EST
Mike,
I took a look at the web site and then went further
and took a look at the designer's site. Great pictures
and interesting info. While I don't think a wood boat
is for me due to maintenance issues, I do remember
that a wood boat is really something special.
Something that plastic boats just aren't. The best
ride and feeling afloat I ever had was on wood boats.
The best of those was a little Angleman 34 ketch.
Didn't care much for the split V-berth but the pilot
berth was very comfortable. Hope the copper cladding
works well for you. It will be quite interesting to
hear about it as you become more familiar with it and
post more. I know I was totally unaware so much went
into putting it on. Thanks for the info.
I admire your attitude about doing it now because you
want to and both your willingness to face the future
with little or nothing if it comes to that. And, at
your age, you're at a time when you can do it more
easily. I hope you remain in that state of mind and do
it. Just please keep us apprised of what you are
doing. Those of us who would like to but are a bit
older would probably like to hear as much as we can.
Along that note, I recently came upon a new book
written about older sailors and by an older sailor
(about age 83 or so and still going) who says keep on
keeping on as long as you can. He's downsizing from a
46 foot boat they've had for over 20 years (just he
and his wife) to a 38 foot boat. He's essentially
saying much the same thing.
For me, it is tough to get over history. 3 marriages
and two divorces with the last prior to divorce taking
us into bankruptcy court. It was hard to get over that
after a lifetime of being financially responsible only
to trust the wrong person too much and then foolishly
not check up on things from time to time before it
came to that. This time, we check up on each other and
it works fine. So, for me, it is likely more difficult
at a more advanced age (+15 to you) when I've had a
few physical ailments sideline me, perhaps somewhat
prematurely, in the last few years. However, I salute
you for doing it. Perhaps I will still be able to do
it but on a smaller scale. Time will tell for me as it
will for you. Should the thought occur, don't give up
without a fight.
I was hoping that someone would say something about
selling and moving either in the U.S. or outside of it
so that they could afford to have both a house and a
boat. That looks like something that my wife and I
could get into. We wouldn't have all the eggs in one
basket just in case. If I should "go" first, my wife
would be left with only social security and a small
401k since my retirement income streams were fixed
before we met and cannot now be changed. So, having a
mortgage free roof over her head is quite important to
me. Nothing on that yet so I'm a bit inclined to think
that this may either be a new idea, people are away
for the holidays, or that most of the 500 plus members
are lurkers out there looking for more info
themselves. Hopefully, someone will have some
info/experience to share.
Good "talking" to you Mike. Keep us advised on the
progress you are making.
--- mgd9121961 <> wrote:
>
> John
>
> one of the biggest problems with the copper is that
> it is soo old
> school that nobody has any idea what to expect. the
> last guy to
> install a copper bottom has most likely been dead
> for 50 years and
> took his experiance with him. To give more detail,
> this isnt just
> copper nailed to the bottom, it starts with treating
> the wood,
> priming with red lead paint, calking seams, covering
> with Ultra
> Bituthene (the old timers used tar) which is a
> sticky membrane used
> for ice bearier on foundations and roofs, nailing on
> the copper,
> heating it with a very large torch and when it cools
> it seals all the
> nail holes.
>
> As for making the choice My outlook on the whole
> thing is that I
> only have today, therefore, I will do something
> today to reach my
> dream. we are in good health so far, the house is
> almost paid off, we
> dont have a bunch of debt, the kids are just about
> grown, and the dog
> is bound to die any time now (just kidding) so as
> things come to pass
> we will be able to save a whole lot-o-money in a
> short time. so why
> sit and ponder when will be the right time. now,
> today, is the time
> to actively start down the path.
>
> The purchase of Halcyon was a BIG step for sure,
> one we didnt
> expect for some time yet but it just fell into
> place, it felt right,
> so we went for it.
>
> For all I know we will end up broke, fishing for
> supper in some
> 3rd world hell hole, but Im gonna live life to the
> fullest getting
> there. whats the worse that could happen. Die
> maybe? I would rather
> go holding on to the masthead as it goes under than
> in some nursing
> home with a CNA wipping my ass and feeding me apple
> sauce. no thanks,
> Ill take my chances.
>
> But we arent gone cruising yet. It could all
> fall to hell and I
> might stay right here seven-to-five-ing it in front
> of the machine
> that I run all day. but as for today I will do
> something to bring
> myself just a little closer to sell up and sail
> time.
>
> BTW Im 43
>
> if anyone wants to see Halcyon here is a link that
> is still active
> from when I purchased her, the guy just never
> bothered to take the
> web site down. http://dasboat.com/seahorse
>
> Mike D
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