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From: Robert Gainer (no email)
Date: Thu Oct 21 2004 - 13:53:37 EDT
Bob,
As you point out slow is relative and the time of a trip is dependent on
your own needs. I have sailed great distances in boats that could only
average 100 nautical miles per day and that meant the a trans ocean passage
could be 30 to 40 days long. In a faster boat you might make the trip in 20
to 30 days. That’s 30% less time, but its only 10 days in real terms. To me
speed may not be the issue.
Now before you read this in the wrong way let me say that this is not a
statement of fact or even an informed opinion, it is a fear based on seeing
model tests in the wave tank and pictures of double enders under sail. I
have only good weather experience in the type, never in poor conditions. In
some designs the stern is very full and the quarter wave is easily the
height of the sheer line if not more. That is the only thing about the type
that worries me. Do you think the question of getting pooped by a following
sea is a concern with the double enders. Have you sailed under these
conditions or do you know someone who can speak with experience about this.
All the best,
Robert Gainer
>From: "Bob Cooley" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [world-cruising] Re: Narrowing down the boat choices
>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:55:56 -0000
>
>
>Owned and cruised my Westsail 32 for the past two years. Covered
>about 7,000 NM and two Atlantic crossings (one solo). Slow is not
>an issue except for racers. Have had mine between 5 and 8 kts for
>days at a time. Buy an airline ticket if you want fast. Just
>kidding but really love the boat and as you mentioned it takes
>practice to back but is not hard once you learn. I have the maxprop
>feathering prop and it works great. Don't forget the best part, the
>self steering vane. Go to Cape Horn web site and see my comments.
>
>Best to all and hope to see you on the high seas.
>
>Bob
>
>s/v Journey
>Westsail 32
>1973
>
>
>--- In , Mike Batchelor <mikebat at g dot dot dot >
>wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:44:28 -0400, l02turner at c dot dot dot
> > <l02turner at c dot dot dot > wrote:
> > > A couple of basic observations about the boats you've selected.
>They are all blue water
> > > boats but the WestSails are really slow.
> >
> > Gee, you think? Everybody tells me that when I mention I am
> > considering a Westsail, usually in the first sentence. That is,
> > everybody except Westsail owners - a biased lot to be sure, but they
> > have experience. But you made it to the 2nd sentence...
>(wink/snicker
> > :).
> >
> > Westsail owners tell me the biggest problem they have is poor
> > maneuverability at low speeds, and backing up. But this is a common
> > trait of all full-keel boats.
> >
> > > Also, as you no doubt know, the bigger/longer boat will be
>faster and more comfortable.
> >
> > All other things being equal, of course. Hull fairness and
>feathering
> > props can make a significant difference, as can the sailing skill of
> > the skipper. I'm looking at a long term cruise with no particular
> > schedule to keep, so I am leaning more towards the comfort and
>safety
> > side of the equation, rather than hull speed.
> >
> > > For details about each boat you're interested in - check with:
> > > http://www.practical-sailor.com/boatreviews/ and you'll mind
>reviews of most or all of the
> > > boats you're interested in - they're fee based but worth it.
> >
> > Wow! They are very proud of their reviews, aren't they? :)
> >
> > > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, Catalina 27)
> >
> > Ha! I'm thinking of driving around a classic car during the next
> > couple of years while I still have to work for a living. But I'm
> > thinking of a Corvette Stingray or a Mustang Fastback, early 70's.
>I
> > bet the two cars you have are fun rides.
>
>
>
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