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Re: [world-cruising] A new topic :-) ... the Westsail 32 as the 'ideal' world...

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Date: Sat Aug 14 2004 - 12:41:54 EDT

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    In a message dated 8/14/2004 12:31:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
     writes:
    Is Ingrid a Colin Archer design? Wd it have as stout a hull as the W-32?
    I've always known that the W-32 is a dog in the water...

    Tim
    Wm Atkins designed what he felt were improved versions of Archer designs, the
    Eric a 32 footer that in knockoff became the Westsail 32 [many think the Eric
    was a better design], the Erin, a 36 footer not well remembered because it
    was not a great boat and the Ingrid, a 38 footer. The Ingrid is considered the
    best sailing boat of the three, followed by the Eric. Atkins is considered to
    have succeded in his quest to improve on Archers.

    Ingrid hulls are stout. Incidently, the "Ingrid" as most (but not all)
    people use the word "Ingrid" refers to fiberglass boats built in Washington in the
    1970's (and into the 1980's??). Ingrid hulls were also built in wood (few
    left) and ferrocement (some floating around, occasionally on the market).

     wrote:
    You could try an Ingrid. About the same amount of space (maybe a little
    more) but hell of a lot better sailor, longer waterline, better handling in
    chop,
    greater ultimate stability, goes upwind. It's a ketch, too, so handling all
    that sail to move a 22,000# boat (W-32) or a 27,000# boat (Ingrid) is easier
    with the Ingrid.

    btw, if you are planning on spending a hundred grand to buy a W-32 these
    days, you are planning on buying at the very premium end of the market. That
    better be one hell of a W-32.

    In a message dated 8/14/2004 8:51:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
     writes:
    Hello All ! .. :-) .. we are sure you have probably been verbally
    beaten to death on the topic of the 'ideal' cruiser for 2..
    worldwide intentions... but hey ! :-) .. why not go over it again
    for the 'newbies' ....

    We have looked for 5 years, and decided on the W32 as the absolute
    ideal in the areas of cost, comfort, space, ability... nothing comes
    close to this for us.. (Don't get us wrong !.. if you know of a more
    suited design in the sub 100k (usd) rate then please offer
    suggestions.. ).

    The wessy look 'right'. has the perfect offshore cockpit (apart from
    the flush deckers !), a great sail plan, has super historical and
    empirical performance, great accommodation, and it 'talks the talk'
    as well as 'walks the walk'..

    Just a topic starter, but we HAVE got our hearts set on this design
    and size as the ideal for US... would be interested in your
    opinions... objective mainly, but subject to the obvious
    subjectiveness... :-)

    Joe n Jayne - UK

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