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From: Courtney Thomas (no email)
Date: Mon Aug 09 2004 - 19:11:07 EDT
Thank you Robert.
I aspire to one day be as knowledgeable and hence helpful as you have been.
I have a copy of Ocean Passages but will download the charts too :-)
I was referring to "Sods Law of the Sea" with which I am unfamiliar and
was curious at Joe's seeming infatuation, having never heard of it.
If you've a view of this book, I'd be pleased to hear it :-)
Sincerely,
Courtney
Robert Gainer wrote:
> Courtney,
> You can down load the pilot charts at:
>
> http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs_j_apc_list.html
>
> I have a copy of the book "Ocean Passages of the World". It has descriptions
> and charts showing the route for sail or low power ships to go from anywhere
> to anywhere. It is one of the most helpful tools that you can use to plan a
> voyage. The pilot charts will suffice if you can't get the book. But try to
> get one.
> All the best,
> Robert Gainer
>
>
>
>
>>From: Courtney Thomas <>
>>Reply-To:
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Greetings
>>Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 17:46:27 -0500
>>
>>It's out of print I assume, since the used copies cost a lot !
>>Why do you think it so wonderful/valuable/etc. ?
>>Appreciatively,
>>
>>Courtney
>>
>>Joe - G4XRZ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello Kevin n Clare.
>>>
>>>We are Joe n Jayne (UK) - year 5 of our 6 year plan :-)....
>>>Our plan is to retire next year (about summer UK) and travel to the
>>>USA to buy a Westsail 32.. we cannot find a better boat for our
>>>needs. We currently sail a Gib Sea 402, doing a nice trip from Brest
>>>(France) to the Isles of Scilly and then on to Falmouth (Cornwall
>>>UK). in a few weeks, so will be fun. Jayne has spent some time on
>>>the little sister !! :-) (A gib Sea 35).. but this will be the first
>>>time on the 'big boat' for her.....
>>>
>>>I was brought up on the Isles of Scilly and' last year, my dad (An
>>>ex
>>>lifeboatman) was buried at sea near Annett on the islands.. it was
>>>both upsetting and uplifting..... It will be a super
>>>trip back there with lots of memories.
>>>
>>>Out goal is also the Pacific... Tahiti has been in my dreams
>>>constantly, with perhaps Galapogos' via
>>>Panama first of course.. :-).. then on to NZ and Aus. We may end
>>>up 'doing' the Med
>>>for a year, although I have travelled extensively throughout the Med
>>>and don't really find too much to interest me.. a bit' too'.. err...
>>>well'.. 'same as' the last bay.... ... too many bloody marinas and
>>>people ready to help you part with the hard earned ..... :--)
>>>
>>>The Caribbean is also a bit tinged with the same phylosophy for
>>>us... as in .. pay as you go.. and, through the nose at
>>>that !! .... ! ..,,,,,,,,,,, Aint interested in the 'ARC' or
>>>the 'well beaten track'.. just wanna try and see it like it is,
>>>although I do appreciate it will take some 'finding...'
>>>
>>>Get yourself a copy of the British Admiralty 'Ocean Passages of the
>>>World' . a veritable bible... also a few pilot charts to plot yer
>>>course and season.. OPotW has 3-400 YEARS of data... all presented
>>>in a relatively easy to read format.. a wealth of previous
>>>seafarers' knowledge in one volume... marvellous. !!!! :-)
>>>
>>>I have a library of 0ver 300 books here, and if I was to pick my
>>>favourite reading.. here would be the results... (I would LOVE it if
>>>other contributers could list their preferred reading and why - it
>>>is a minefield out their... but so much GREAT stuff..
>>>
>>>Here goes...
>>>
>>>(I thought of listing them in order of preference.. however, one
>>>triggers the other, moods trigger differing titles... I have used
>>>these books to conjure up great moods and moods have conjured up a
>>>thirst for certain authors, hope you understand.. so, an unedited
>>>list... :-)
>>>
>>>Bernard Moitissiere - ALL... fabulous.. a wealth of info... !
>>>Miles Smeeton... great read.. a moral of what NOT to do lol.... :-)
>>>Hal Roth.... can't say anymore.. great stuff. !!!
>>>Chichester .. sigh... marvellous.. !
>>>Slocum.. need more be said ???... (how to use tin tacks as a burgler
>>>alarm !)
>>>The Pardey's.. quite frightening when Larry's temper threatens
>>>to 'kill' lyn in the Med, (The STRESS),,,,, but otherwise ,, ok,...
>>>some good tips. !
>>>
>>>Eric n Susan Hiscock, great reading, constrained by his
>>>materialistic outlook ( or more rightly his fight against a
>>>developing world and his desire to shed himslef of such.. he never
>>>quite won...)- (Aren't we all doing that though ?? !),
>>>but, ''great'' reading,,,,, as he got older, he appeared to find it
>>>more difficu;t to balance these.
>>>Ellen, - hmmm... difficult, mixed up young gal...... nuff said..
>>>Jimmy Cornell and family - all, good work.. got detracted by the
>>>ARC, but otherwise great stuff.. if you wanna cruise the 'golden
>>>mile' of cruise sailing.. then go for it.. cash all the way, but
>>>well trodden, many lifeboats' and' you could even get
>>>insurance... '''''''''''''''life is good... :-) :-)
>>>party all night on another' perhaps, charter yacht with carefree
>>>owners..
>>>excellent !!!.. or maybe not.. or maybe so :-) :-) - The ARC is the
>>>place to call 'Mayday' etc when you lose your rudder.... and if
>>>that's your style, then go for it, but I think not... :-)
>>>
>>>Other good stuff in my limited reality is....
>>>
>>>'Sea Fever' (My underlying phylosophy)..(Search Google if necessary)
>>>'Sod's Law of the Sea' .. probably the best '''ever''' book on
>>>cruising....
>>>Adlard Coles - 'Heavy Weather' .. a MUST
>>>Robertson.. (Sorry - I said thoughts would be random.. :-) ) check
>>>him out for the liferaft..... :-)
>>>Tristan Jones... great yarn.. great stretch of the truth me thinks..
>>>but as said, great yarn(s)....
>>>Anything by Tom Cunliffe... superb guy, arrogant as the day is long,
>>>and rightly so !... :-) :-)
>>>Donald.. yes, ol Don Street... .. he can tell it like it is with a
>>>tougue in cheek,, !!! and be gads is there a lot to leanr from him !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>And the prize, for the BEST book on Cruising EVER.. must go to...
>>>wait for it...
>>>
>>>'Sod's Law of the Sea'
>>>
>>>
>>>by Bill Lucas and Andrew Spedding..
>>>
>>>
>>>if you aint read it, and you probably haven't !!.. then
>>>please do, and report back.. it is totally invaluable and has missed
>>>it's literary right of passage as an all time 'cruising' classic...
>>>
>>>:-) :-)
>>>
>>>Enjoy your plans Kevin n Clare, have a great life, please read the
>>>above recommendation... (s)
>>>
>>>and have fun, above all else, have fun guys...
>>>
>>>Joe (n Jayne)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In , "daisy66nz"
>>><daisyandernie at h dot dot dot > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi we are Kevin and Clare of NZ. We are planning to cruise from
>>>>
>>>>
>>>NZ
>>>
>>>
>>>>to the Pacific Islands in about two years time. We are in year 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>a 7 year plan lol. Currently enjoying a Alan Wright Tracker 26'
>>>>just back on the mooring today after haulout maintenance...great
>>>>
>>>>
>>>way
>>>
>>>
>>>>to spend your holidays...not!!! Looking to listen, learn and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>share
>>>
>>>
>>>>experiences an steal all good ideas and advice on cruising. Kevin
>>>>has previously sailed extensively (on the bigger boats he yearns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>again) and Clare is learning...s l o w l y (and he is soooo
>>>>patient!!!!) He feels he is becoming a mental patient lol. great
>>>>
>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>find this group looking froward to chatting:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>s/v Mutiny
>>Rhodes Bounty II
>>lying Oriental, NC
>>WDB5619
>>
>>
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