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From: Robert Gainer (no email)
Date: Sun Jun 20 2004 - 14:22:28 EDT
David;
My first trans-Atlantic was when I was 21 and the list of must haves was
based on a series of trips I made starting at age 13, from Rhode Island to
greater and greater distances until I got so far north in Canada that
England was to be the next stop. That boat was 22’ long and you could not
bring anything that you did not need, no space. I had no engine, radio,
self-steering (the boat would balance by herself) or electronics. My
navigation was with sextant, taffrail log and Timex wristwatch. That was one
of the best trips I ever had. Since then I have sailed to Africa, Brazil,
Spain, Portugal and a lot of Europe, etc. Over the years the amount of gear
that I considered necessary has grown and the size of my boat has grown.
Still I think that I have less gizmos and more tools then most liveaboards.
I only add to my list after seeing some one else use it or I used it on a
delivery trip. I can’t think of many things that I dropped overboard from
frustration. You want to make a list, go sailing and see what you reach for
then buy it for your boat.
All the best;
Bob
>From: David Wilsmore <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Which options are maintenance headaches?
>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:47:18 -0400
>
>A list of things that seem harder to maintain than was worth can be kinda
>difficult to build, especially as some things I discounted immediately,
>without the actual experience of them "not being worth it". The two main
>things that spring to mind are a reverse osmosis water maker and
>refrigeration.
>
>Checking my old to-buy lists come up with these things I also chose to do
>without due to budget restrictions:
>Dingy outboard, Fixed mount GPS, Wind generator, entertainment/stereo
>system/cockpit speakers etc.
>Large inverter, Instrument repeaters, Wind Instrumentation, electric
>auto-pilot (but I am seriously reconsidering this one!)....
>
>What something is "worth" can be highly personal. Makes is hard to
>determine if something is "worth it" for me. I have found information
>about what wasn't used as much as was expected more useful... any
>information that trims stuff from my want list sure beats adding to it!!
>
>Perhaps another way to phrase it is "what stuff got thrown overboard from
>frustration?" or some-such..
>
>so what about that?
>
>david
>
>
>
>At 10:30 AM 6/20/2004, you wrote:
> >I guess that I just don’t get it. I thought that the question was what
> >equipment was harder to maintain then it was worth. Or to put it another
>way
> >what do you actually need to do the trip within your budget. On my boat I
> >don’t use electronics because I cannot repair it, and the sextant /
>taffrail
> >replacement works fine. All my choices are based on what I can repair or
> >replace with my skills and budget. That is the way to decide on the
>choices
> >of equipment and life style, can you afford to do the trip that way.
>People
> >have done trips in everything from a primitive dugout to a luxury yacht
>with
> >paid crew. You pay your money and take your pick.
> >All the best;
> >Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > >From:
> > >Reply-To:
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Re: Which options are maintenance
>headaches?
> > >Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:10:26 EDT
> > >
> > >Depends on whether you want to sail for adventure or maybe motor from
>one
> > >happy hour to the next.
> > >
> > >Let's say you wanted to drive to the southern most tip of South America
>you
> > >could. Would you pick a motorcycle with camping gear, or a 45 foot
> > >Winnebago
> > >with jacuzzi bath?
> > >
> > >Let's you wanted a close to water front residence in Key Largo, but
>didn't
> > >have the eight hundred grand to buy a place. Would you pick a 45 foot
> > >Winnebago
> > >with jucuzzi bath parked in an RV park, or a motorcycle with camping
>gear?
> > >
> > >First you define the problem you wish to solve (adventure? water front
> > >residence without the real estate taxes?), then the solution usually
> > >becomes
> > >obvious.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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