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Re: [world-cruising] US Health Care

From: Dave J (no email)
Date: Mon Dec 08 2003 - 12:57:12 EST

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    Ahhhh. US Health Care. A favorite subject.

    (up on my soapbox here) (grin)

     IMHO health care ~itself~ is just fine in the US.
    People come from all over the world to our medical facilities for care
    and treatment.
    It's paying for it that becomes the problem for the average person.

    It kind of goes back to the time honored saying of "You get what you
    pay for".

    We're not a socialist country where the government is supposed to be the
    answer to all ills.
    Nor are we even a "democracy" where "the people rule" directly.
    We're a somewhat democratic republic where the people actually elect
    their own rulers.
    Have been ever since this country was established back in the late
    1700's.

    Along with our desire for our well-known personal individualism comes
    the personal responsibility of individually standing on our own two
    feet. Something that great portions the current generation fails to
    recognize.

    If a government is supporting ya, they're also regulating you to a
    degree directly consistent with the amount of support. This is life.
    One of the invariables. With support comes a proportionate lack of
    freedom. Ya can't have it both ways.
    max freedom = max independence
    min freedom = max dependence

    As to importing drugs from other countries,,,,, In my humble opinion,
    seeing the level of regulation that our Canadian brothers and sisters
    put up with from their government ....... I'd feel ~quite~ safe with
    drugs that come through normal channels in ~their~ country. Now don't
    get me wrong here. I LIKE Canada (except for their weather -- grin).
    Now there are some other countries .......... ('nuf said) :-(

    (soapbox mode - off) :-)

    Back to the Bahamas. --------- just what are the usual sea and weather
    conditions between the mainland and the islands around the mid November
    time frame ?

    The Aquarius 21 footer is definitely NOT a tender boat to sail, she'll
    take 45 knot winds with just one of her two reefs in --- but --- she
    also doesn't have really good cockpit drainage as do some of the open
    stern "flow-thru cockpit" type boats.
    Of course that could be partially cured with a ~Large~ scupper designed
    to carry any great overage of water right through the laz and out the
    stern. Would need a flapper of some kind to keep following seas from
    entering that way though I'd imagine.
    But to think of all the laz space I would loose........ :-( :-(

    The group's thoughts ??????

    Dave J

    > Message: 5
    > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 01:04:21 -0000
    > From: "ocean_dancer2001" <>
    > Subject: Re: medical insurance (Jason)
    >
    > Hi Jason,
    > You make some very good points and raise some very good questions. I
    > wish I had the answers for you. I really am only familiar with US
    > insurance practices/costs as well as US pharmaceutical practices/cost.
    > And I only know that both are way out of control, and yes, many
    > citizens are obtaining their Rx's from Canada, and taking whatever
    > risks may be involved, simply because money and health wise, they have
    > no choice. That, in my mind, is a very sad commentary on health care
    > in the US today.
    > But to answer your questions directly, about the practices overseas, I
    > cannot answer and I'm sure there are members within this group who
    > have perhaps encountered a need for health care while abroad, and
    > could answer you better than myself.
    > Good luck, and keep us informed if you should find some answers.
    > Be Well and best of luck,
    > Ocean_Dancer2001~

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