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From: jt_lotus (no email)
Date: Wed Sep 24 2003 - 17:35:23 EDT
Rick
There might be a flaw in your question, since the folks that are "out
there cruising" without the bells and whistles would not have access
to the internet other than occasionally.
I am getting ready to purchase my first and hopefully last boat to
live aboard during the early part of my retirement. Yes, I fall into
the bells and whistles group. During my research, I have found that
the sailing population is very segmented and that their opinions,
boat choice, equipment selection are all related to their part of the
sailing universe. I see the catagories as follows, there may be
more:
Full time liveaboard cruiser(no land base at all and on the move)
Cruisers with home port (land base for part year or between trips)
Liveaboards (lives on boat, but rarely leaves port, often working on
land)
Weekend cruisers (Sail when they can, with a three week trip in
season)
Racers
Boat owners (like owning the boat more than sailing it)
I bet even the notion of exactly what is a "bell or whistle"; is
different between groups. A reliable fast dingy may be important to
the first three above, but not even needed for the last three
groups. I find a lot of parallels with the camping world. Tent
camping is fun, but not for much longer that two nights. Starting
that campfire with a flint and down is a rewarding challenge, but not
twice a day, every day.
There is a Yahoo group "LowCostVoyaging" which is fairly active and
makes for interesting reading. I read it because I want my Bells and
Whistles at the very least costs.
Fair winds
Capt. Jim the Pirate
--- In , Rick Bradshaw <rbradsh2 at s dot dot dot >
wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Reading the article a question occurred to me and I would like the
> list to respond. Here in the U.S. we tend to add as many bells and
> whistles as we possible can. Quite often, I hear, or it's alluded
to,
> that if you don't have the latest and greatest gadget, you're not
> really ready to go cruising. Perhaps that is true or not.
>
> I also hear that there are those out there cruising in boats that
> many would not feel is safe or adequate to go across the harbor
with.
> Usually, it is at least alluded that these are people from other
> countries (than the U.S.). If true, these people are out there
> enjoying life instead of being stuck working their life away to get
> the cash or in a slip fitting out with the latest "stuff" that they
> "might" need or that they think they need because they saw it in a
> magazine or someone else they know has it and told to them that
> "they" wouldn't go anywhere without it and, by extension, neither
> should anyone else.
>
> So, here's my question: How many of us _don't_ have all the bells
and
> whistles, _are_ on a strict budget or for any other reason don't
have
> them on our boats? I think there are more people than many would
like
> to think, who think it is important to know the manual things
rather
> than depend on the electronics to get from point "A" to point "B"
or
> have only a VHF or no radio at all and forego satellite
> communication/navigation, ham or SSB communication, etc.
>
> If that _is_ true and there are a number of us out there, let us
know
> why you are doing it that way. I certainly don't see it as "wrong"
to
> do it that way. I would just like to know the reasons and have some
> idea of the number on this list and reasons why along with any
> reports that have a bearing on doing it your way. Do you personally
> know of those who are out there cruising like this and can report
on
> them since they may not be on the list? Would appreciate hearing
> about that too. Perhaps it will help some others who think they
have
> to have "everything" _rationally_ (for them, whatever that means)
> rethink that position and go earlier, smaller, or
less "comfortable"
> than they had been thinking and planning or confirm to them that
they
> are right and they need to wait to leave until they have it all.
>
> Looking forward to the answers.
>
> Rick
>
> >For those interested in the S-57, found this:
> >
> >http://www.motorboating.com/motorboat/ go to Electronics, article
is
> >Navigational Software for 2004
> >
> >Best, Fitzy (John)
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