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From: Courtney Thomas (no email)
Date: Thu Sep 18 2003 - 17:37:20 EDT
Where can I see the "ARC list" please ?
Thank you.
sail_nutter wrote:
>I've been a proud owner of two Swedish built yachts (a HR42 and a BSI
>Farr Pilothouse 56) and cannot recommend them highly enough. Build
>quality is superb, systems equipment placements are well thought out
>and the performance is superior. I've only sailed a few times on
>Beneteaus (or Bendy-Toys as my sailing friends refer to them as) and
>haven't been impressed with the build quality or sailing performance.
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>Sure they are cheap(er), have high volume, and look nice when primped
>up for the glossy brouchers or boat shows - but at the end of the day
>they are mainly designed and built for benign conditions and family
>oriented sailing in the Med / Carribbean charter fleets. The
>majority of charter programmes are 5 yrs after which time they are
>sold off and replaced with new boats. If you want something that is
>more substantial, as your projected cruising area indicates, then go
>for one of the names you suggest - especially if you want to go Blue
>Water (just look at the manufacturers list in the ARC).
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>Also, you need to look at resale value when considering the relative
>financial merits of these boats. The charter business off take
>ensures that the manufacturers churn out large numbers of Bennetaus
>yearly and the regular roll off means there are plenty of 5-6yr old
>boats with nearly identical specifications premanantly depressing the
>market - great for when you want to buy, but equally will make your
>task of selling that much harder (and more costly). Of course prices
>of boats vary with the circumstances of each buyer and seller, but my
>own experiences have been positive for both of my Swedish built
>vessels; sales were quick (inside of 2 months for both) and for very
>close to what I paid for them in the first instance - and that
>definitely made the math of being a boat owner much more palatable.
>If you are on the S. Coast - drop into Hamble Point Marina and see
>Transworld Yachts They are the main HR dealer for the UK and always
>seem to have a good selection of vessels on offer - although turnover
>is pretty quick !
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>Finally, although I'm sure I've irritated a good number of Bendy Toy
>owners out there (sorry about that), there are 1,000s of those boats
>in the water successfully making all kinds passages in all kinds of
>conditions and more importantly giving their owners a great amount of
>pleasure. So, whatever boat you choose, have fun!
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>--- In , "marion_peter_doyle"
><doylies at b dot dot dot > wrote:
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>>After 10 years of crewing I'm looking to buy my first yacht with a
>>view to spending a couple of seasons on the English South coast &
>>then spending a few summers in the Baltic.
>>A Beneteau 36CC is in budget, about £70K, but seems lacking in
>>stowage. Is this a good choice for long term cruising or should I
>>push my budget to a Najad, Malo or HR?
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