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Re: [world-cruising] Steel Boat Purchase

From: Russ Swan (no email)
Date: Fri Jul 04 2003 - 21:40:00 EDT

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    Gerad,

    I'd have to agree with the point made by Alaska Trawler below on prevention
    of rust INSIDE a steel boat, and the method Alaska Trawler used.

    I had a bad smell coming from a stern bilge which had been covered with
    fibreglass by a previous owner. After ripping the old fraying fibreglass off
    I found extensive surface rust, and the smell made me a bit light headed. I
    was inside a confined space so had to get out pretty quick for a while and
    let it air out. There was "black" water in there and blowflies even started
    buzzing around, no doubt attracted from a nearby industrial garbage bin.

    In any event, I dreaded to think what was happening down inside that bilge,
    but I couldn't get my hand down past the stern tube running across the top.
    The boat was on the hard at the time, so I cut a square access hole into the
    keel from the outside with a grinder and steel cutting disk (a relatively
    easy repair benefit of owning a steel boat), and started scooping out the
    contents.

    (BTW: a quick course at your local TAFE (night school or equivalent), should
    soon get you up to speed with arc-welding. At least enough to do most of
    your own repairs - and arc-welders sufficient for most jobs are relatively
    cheap at hardware stores too).

    The filler material was expanding foam. Only the very top outer layer,
    about an eighth of an inch (or a couple of mils), was saturated with water
    but after that the foam was dry. Old, but dry. It had obviously been there
    for a long time (the boat was 14 years by that time). I was astonished to
    find the steel underneath in perfect condition.

    A previous owner had epoxy-painted the bilge, and then painted the walls
    with a bitumen based substance of the type commonly used on roofs, and
    filled it with foam. Obviously worked, except that he covered it with
    fibreglass which, over time and the movements of the hull, caused cracks in
    the mat. The inevitable ingress of stray water from open hatches, busted
    water cooling pipe and stuff like that eventually seeped into it ... but not
     through it.

    Before that when I first bought the boat, I found a football sized lump down
    in the main bilge under the motor. I poked it with a knife and it
    penetrated to the hilt. After digging away, that lump was also foam with
    just a quarter inch or so of the outer surface penetrated with bilge diesel
    and oil. Again, the steel surface underneath was as-new.

    If you've got any hidden, out of the way places e.g. under the shower or
    galley that aren't easily accessible, or even non-accessible, this is one
    way to ensure peace of mind. Even though foam forms its own skin, I'd still
    suggest you use a pliable waterproof cover (not paint). You'll find several
    suitable types in a hardware shop.

    Russ Swan
    Lowana IV, Darwin, Australia
    True stories of unusual travel by adventurous people
    http://www.adventureyarns.com.au

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "AlaskaTrawler" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:49 PM
    Subject: [world-cruising]

    > Hello
    >
    > In purchasing a steel vessel of any kind (sail or power ) there are some
    > very important things you should know. The first thing is in my opinion
    over
    > all else is how corrosion has been managed. In my view it would be a plus
    if
    > the vessel had been sprayed with urethane foam from the time it was
    > constructed. In my view foam is the greatest extender of life of a steel
    > hull. First it completly seals off moisture and oxygen from the steel.
    Rust
    > can't begin unless those two element are present. Further it fills all
    voids
    > where water can sit and begin the corrosion process process.

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