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Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Fiberglass or Steel
From: Barry Brazier (ozboats@XXX.XXX)
Date: Wed May 07 2003 - 16:42:48 EDT
While the critisim of stell is often justified there is a definite predudice against them in the USA. Steel is very popular in France and sales of second hand steel boats is common. There are a lot of steel boats here is Australia.
Each boat should be concidered on its merrits. Have a close look. An old steel can be very sound if properly maintained. A few rusty plates are easy to replace with a bit of "boiler making knowlege".
I have seen some old GRP boat badly delaminating and it is worse than a bit of rust.
Amature built steel baots like all home built boats of any kind may have pore finish inside and out. But not always. Some "amatures" are skilled tradespeople and do excellent work.
I have not purchased steel because glass boats usually look better and and are heavier for the same length and need more mainatainance . However for a world
cruise the stell boat is much stronger and less likely to sustain damage if you run agound or hit a floating (or swiming) object.
I would concider stell for such a project. It just reqires a lot of time examining each boat.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: JAXAshby@XXX.XXX
To: world-cruising@XXX.XXX
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Fiberglass or Steel
> >The question I pose to any body that is willing to give advice is:
> >What is the more cost effective option. A Fiberglass boat or a steel
> >boat?
Generally speaking, quality for quality a used steel boat is about 25% to 40%
of a production glass boat. (home made glass boats usually look absolutely
terrible and seldom sell easily past the 2nd owner.) Occasionally, a steel
boat owner will believe *his* used boat is worth 110% of a comparable glass
boat. Become knowledgeable regarding steel boats so you can personally
thoroughly checkout a steel boat without surveryor help and you can find some
bargains in solid cruising boats. Some homebuilt steel boats look it.
However, there is one steel boat wherein the factory versions are considered
*much* worse quality than the homebuilt ones.
Same can be said of (genuine) cold-molded boats (as opposed to wooden boats
glassed over in an effort to make a rickety hull last longer).
Because of the minimum thickness of steel plate needed for ordinary welding,
steel boats under roughly 40 feet (some say 36 feet, others say 34 feet) can
be a bit heavy compared to fiberglass (and damned heavy compared to
cold-molded).
Generally speaking, even a wretchedly assembled steel hull can live on for
decades, while wretched glass boats of the 1960's and 1970's (Grampion and
Coronado are two that come to mind) have, for the most part, long been cut up
with chain saws and dumpsterized.
> You and your lady want to sail around the world. How far would you and she
> be willing to fly in an aircraft built in somebody's back yard?
I flew my experimental (that's how homebuilt aircraft are licensed) for hours
and hours and hours, selling it only because it was a single place plane and
I married. Oshkosh Wisconsin hosts the Experimental Aircraft Association
every year and several thousand experimental aircraft show up. My brother
owns two such aircraft and regularly submits each to high-G aerobatics.
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