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Subject: Re: [world-cruising] Well, maybe the time has come...
From: Jan Bruggeman (jan@XXX.XXX)
Date: Sun Dec 01 2002 - 07:25:11 EST
Hi paul,
> Now, I'm Australian and my girlfriend is French, and we're trying to decide
> where to start things out -- East Coast Aus or Europe/Med. So, has anyone
> got any ideas of costs of boats (in the 30-32' range) and costs of cruising
> in Europe vs Aus.
I am just looking at the adds in "Voiles et Voiliers", a well known french
sailing magazine. You can have an Arpège (31 ft - 1968 - french fibreglass
"standard" boat for ocean cruising) for about 18.000 Euro. I would consider
15.000 Euro a minimum for an old but sound 31 ft yacht. And I would not go
smaller, if you want to have a little comfort with two persons on board. In
my opinion, in Europe France is the best place to look for a second hand
yacht. Other countries seem to be more expensive. But then, those other
countries are more northerly, and tend to build stronger "North Sea Approved"
boats.
>
> We will be trying to do things on the lower end of the purchase end, and
> mooring at anchor as often as possible (we just can't wait any longer to
> make a start.) I know in Australia you can moor at anchor pretty much
> anywhere along the coast and islands for free and the marinas are quite
> inexpensive. What about the mediterranean? Can we just move from port to
> port, island to island and stay for free or is it like the UK where even
> the creek/inlets are mostly changing for moorings.
In the med it very much depends. On the southern shore (Morocco, Algeria,
Tunesia, Libia) only Tunesia offers decent marina's. I do not know of many
moorings there, and take into account the unstable political situation. A
Belgian cruising couple has been taken into hostage for about 2 years while
sailing there. In general, hardly any cruising is done on the southern
mediteranean shore.
The eastern end (Israel, Egypt, Lebannon) is no place to stay if you want to
take a rest. No good anchorages there due to the low sandy coast. You cannot
enter the river Nile if you are a bit over 1 meter deep due to the bar at the
entrance.
On the Northern shore, Turkey (is that the correct english spelling ?), Greece
and Yugoslavia are the best places to go if you want to stay at anchor.
Italy, southern France and Spain are very densely populated, no more
unspoiled anchorages there. The islands would be your best bet.
On the Atlantic coast of Spain, Portugal and France there are hardly any safe
anchorages. Once in the channel, There are many marina's, but expensive,
Cowes being the most expensive centre point there (a pound a foot). Very few
safe anchorages:
On the North Sea absolutely no anchorages in Belgium, Holland and Germany due
to low sandy coast. An average of 10 euro per night for a 31 ft boat in a
marina. You have to go north to Western Norway or the Baltic to find free
safe anchorages, but the general living is very expensive there.
In short, I only learned to anchor while cruising around the atlantic, after
20 years of sailing on the North Sea.
> This will be a large
> factor in deciding where to cruise because the costs will determine how
> long we can spend before rebuilding the back account.
I know the feeling perfectly well ...
Have a look at my website if you want some general information on ocean
cruising with an old 31 ft boat (it has been sold by now, I still have to
update the web pages).
-- mvg,Jan Bruggeman mail: jan@XXX.XXX web: http://jan.bruggeman.com
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