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Subject: Re: [worldcruising] ocean crossing by container
From: Barry Brazier (ozboats@XXX.XXX)
Date: Wed Sep 25 2002 - 19:51:56 EDT
An old design that would fit a container well is the "Yachting Monthly water witch" (UK) .They are hard chime plywood with leeboards and shallow draft and ketch rigged. I know a guy who sailed the south pacific in one with his family.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: jan bruggeman
To: worldcruising@XXX.XXX
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [worldcruising] ocean crossing by container
Hi,
It was indeed an approx. 30 ft long boat i saw in Acores, with side-mounted
daggerboards and no keel. I suppose he's designed the hull just wide and high
enough to fit in a 30 or 40 ft container, and still providing a maximum of
space aboard. It's certainly not an inpossible idea, people have crossed
oceans on much smaller boats, and the boat I used on my round Atlantic would
also almost fit into a 30 ft container, if it weren't for the keel.
Also the container idea is not novel as I also know of a dutch couple who's
sailed Indonesia for some 6 months in a 21 ft boat, which they also shipped
by container to it's destination (and back) - and that's not taking into
acount the Europeans who've travelled the American continent by van or car
which they shipped by container.
The architect did not intend the boat to do ocean crossings, but I hear
stories about him ending up doing it, and I think I saw the boat in Acores
while on that crossing.
But still, as that guy seems to have designed boats for specifically that
idea, I'd like to learn more of it.
--
mvg,
Jan Bruggeman - ON4AIN
tel: +32 9 2233 608
mail: jan at bruggeman dot com
web: http://jan.bruggeman.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Grimmett
> To: worldcruising@XXX.XXX
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [worldcruising] ocean crossing by container
>
>
> Jan:
> I don't know about the guy, but I can't imagine the boat being that
> large. Ocean shipping containers are 8'6" wide and between 8'6" and 9'6"
> tall. With that little width, you'd be looking at a very small boat. Some
> shipping companies do have open containers and some are just the bottom
> platform. If they stack you on the top you could possible overhang on the
> width.
>
> Good luck though.
> -Tom
>
> --- jan bruggeman <jan@XXX.XXX> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am looking for data on an american yacht architect who has
> > specialized on "container fittable" boats.
> >
> > He sailed around the world, but he did the ocean crossings by putting
> > his boat in a container and sending it over by freight cargo. His boat
> > whas so designed as to be as big as possible but still fitting into a
> > cargo: he used dutch style side-mounted daggerboards, a shortened mast
> > (gaf rig ?), etc..
> >
> > I think he eventually crossed the Atlantic east-ward, for I think I saw
> > the (or such a) boat in Acores back in june 1995.
> >
> > Any information on the guy and his boats is welcome.
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