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Subject: Re: [worldcruising] thinking right
From: Forsyth (sailors2@XXX.XXX)
Date: Thu Jul 12 2001 - 03:05:19 EDT
Chad,
I can't speak with any authority on the different brands of trawlers,
beyond noting that Grand Banks has a reputation and look of real quality. I
can talk with some authority about older wooden boats, though. At one point
in my life I a spent a couple of years working full time to buy older wooden
sailboats, restore them, and sell them. I always seemed to lose money at it
though <g>. One should never try to do that as other than a labor of love.
More recently my wife an I owned a 42' wooden cutter for eight years. We
did a lot of major work on the boat, and ultimately went to a glass hull to
see us through our retirement (we move aboard in 3 1/2 months).
If you like working with wood, have the tools and have the time, there's
virtually nothing you can't do yourself. Because wooden boats are so much
more work than glass, the prices are much much lower. , the prices are much
much lower because of all the extra work. Once a leak develops (and leaks
will develop) they need to be dealt with promplty. Fresh water, limited air
circulation and wood equals rot.
The big differences in price you mention will be related to two things,
1)the engines - hours since overhaul, condition, etc., and 2) the condition
of the boat. A trashed out wooden boat can be saved, in most cases, but the
amount of work involved can be absolutely overwhelming. You can't buy an
older wooden boat, get it in shape, and then expect to sit back and enjoy
it. Wood needs constant attention. Personally, I enjoyed the work, it's
just not what I have in mind for my retirement.
As always, free adviis appropriately priced.
James Forsyth
S/V Moonshadow
> From: "Chad Hilbert" <jc.hilbert@XXX.XXX>
> Subject: thinking Right?
>
>
> Thanks for the greetings, folks.
>
> I recently sold my 1999 326 Carver. I bought new, and owned for 18
months. The boat was very comfortable, but extremely expensive to operate.
I averaged 0.8 gal/mile of Gasoline. We toured the Abacos' for a month, and
spent over $5000 in gas alone.
>
> I'm now looking for an older 36 or 42 Grand Banks. If I pay cash, I
will be able to live aboard on my "retirement " income. However, I only
have about $150,000 to spend, and don't want to spend all of it "up-front".
My feelings are, if I buy an older "Woodie", than I may be able to achieve
my goal. I've scoured the internet, and even some of the older GBs go for
as much as $160,000, while others of the same vintage for $80,000. What
could possibly cause this disparity on two boats of the same age?
>
> I don't mind a "fixer-up", but don't want to purchase something on its'
"last leg" either. What should I look for? Any Ideas?
>
> Chad Hilbert
> Georgia, USA
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