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Subject: RE: [worldcruising] Re: lift keel
From: Barry Brazier (barryb@XXX.XXX)
Date: Sun Feb 11 2001 - 20:46:02 EST
The centre board on my Irwin swung on a pin and was housed entirely in a
cavity of the lead keel.
There was no intrusion into the cabin except for a tube that containing the
wire attaching the keel to the winch on the cabin top. The centre board was
7' long and 2' wide. The original was constructed of GRP but after breaking
it off twice I built a new one from steel and glasses it over. I was a
little worried about this because next time I hit something I might break a
hole in the hull instead of snapping off the board.
I have had a similar worry with attaching stanchions to the deck. I have had
a couple break off or pull out when a big enough crew/wave fell against
them. The question is; do you make the stanchion stronger and pull a hole
out of the deck or leave it weak enough to beak off before that happens.
Something has to be the weakest link. Preferably that should be outside the
boat and not compromise the water tight hull.
Regards
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: sogeparc@XXX.XXX]
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2001 12:31 PM
To: worldcruising@XXX.XXX
Subject: [worldcruising] Re: lift keel
Lifting keel is a blessing for anyone in search of freedom, it keeps
you away from the crowd, gives you peace of mind in unchartered or
shallow waters and is a must for more adventurous sailors (Patagonia,
Antactica, Lagoons...). It has to be a real keel to give the real
advantage, a centerboard with a ballasted boat will never give the
same results. A proper one should be swinging around a pin and not
sliding up and down (prone to problems). The drawback is of course
the invasion of your saloon...
Reliable and very seaworthy designs: Damien II or Pelagic (Novak).
Discussions open, I experienced these type of boat and will go for
it, anywhere anytime!
Cheers
PS, yes, I am French!
--- In worldcruising@XXX.XXX> wrote:
> Steve
>
> I sailed USA to Australia in a Irwin Citation 39 with 4' draft and
a drop
> keel that gave 10' draft. I broke it off twice. Once by going
aground and
> once in the open ocean. After repair in Ecuador I did not bother
with it
> again. I did some windward work even through reef entrances with
out putting
> it down.. I would be tempted to remove it and fill the cavity with
lead.
> The bloody thing makes a thump every time you go over a swell.
> I had over 6' draft all the way so I would rather more draft to
improve
> windward ability in a blow. With 4' draft in the Tasman sea could
not make
> much to windward against 40' winds because I had to reduce too much
sail.
>
> Barry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Strand [mailto:strand@XXX.XXX]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2001 2:44 AM
> To: worldcruising@XXX.XXX
> Subject: Re: [worldcruising] lift keel
>
>
> I am not sure why a lift keel would be desirable in the Pacific,
most
> anchorages and harbors are pretty deep. My own opinion is that the
hassles
> and possible problem with a lift keel are way beyond the advantages
that it
> offers. However, our friends Sandy and Sidney VanZandt on Sequil
had twin
> dagger boards, very little draft and really loved it. However,
their
> technology was very simple. I have been told that jamming of lift
keels is
> a real issue. If you look at the owners manuals for boats that have
them,
> they always have a section on how to deal with problems.
> Lots of choices
> Steve Strand
> s/v Danzante
>
> At 11:46 AM 2/5/01 +0200, you wrote:
> >hello fellowsailors
> >l am contemplating to own a 45-50 footer for circumnavigation
purposes.
> >l have been told that a lift keel is what l need especially when
cruising
> >the pasific.
> >can anybody advise please the cons and pros for such keels.Are
they
> >reliable enough
> >fair winds
> >hasan buyukaydin
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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