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Re: T&T: i am looking for anyone who has painted a white hull with a dark color

From: Bob Clinkenbeard (no email)
Date: Thu Apr 03 2008 - 10:02:25 EDT

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    Bruce,
    The cracks or checking were probably already in your boats surface and when
    the dark paint was applied it made them more visible with white showing
    through. I am not making a defense for the painter, only stating what I
    think is going on.

    On my boat, that was white to begin with, I saw the minute cracks as I was
    sanding the surface preparing for the new dark blue paint. My boat is
    fiberglass over wood composite with no gelcoat, only an epoxy glass
    covering. There were several coats of original paint, a primer over the
    glass, white single part poly white and then a repaint of single part
    polyurethane, off white....without a primer between the two top coats. I
    think that is where my problem came from. The previous owner did not prime
    before recoating and the paint checked due to poor adhesion.
    I sanded through the off white and exposed the original white paint and then
    applied 2 coats of primer. I top coated 2 coats of the dark blue over that.
    Most of the checking was either gone or very hard to see. These paints are
    so thin that there is very little build up making it hard to cover up
    anything like home paints or auto enamel can do. These checks bleed through
    even though they are so fine you can't feel them with a fingernail.

    Your situation is different because you have a fiberglass boat with a
    gelcoat. I do not know if it has ever been painted or not and if you are
    not the original owner, you may never know either. I suspect one of these
    happened...your gelcoat checked (not a rare thing), or there was paint over
    the original gelcoat that failed due to age or poor application, or the new
    Awlgrip application could have failed because in the preparation, wax or
    some other surface contaminate was not completely removed before priming or
    some process of application was not done properly.

    I think the only way you will ever know for sure what happened to cause the
    checks, is to sand through each coat of paint to the gelcoat until the check
    disappears. On close inspection, you WILL find the culprit.

    I hope some of this helps.

    Bob Clinkenbeard
    24' custom trailer trawler "Bobbin Along"
    Locust Grove, Georgia
    http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

    _________________________________________________________________________

    > I am looking for anyone's experience with painting their previously white
    > hull with a dark color.
    >
    > I am having problems with my 18 month old $16,000 awlgrip paintjob from
    > kkmi
    > in richmond california. dark blue over white on a 1985 Krogen 42. We are
    > getting cracks in the paint, especially in the areas exposed to most sun.
    > I have been told this "frequently happens" by the Awlgrip expert and no
    > one
    > is to blame except the owner who wanted a dark color and the excessive
    > sunlight.
    >
    > My impression is that there are lots of boats out there in hotter climates
    > than San Francisco with a dark paint job over previous white that worked
    > out
    > fine. And the Krogen fiberglass is just like anybody else's fiberglass.
    > I suspect it is an application problem or a paint batch problem but i
    > would
    > like to have others experience with this. Am I crazy or are they pulling
    > my
    > leg?
    >
    > --
    > bruce adornato
    > kk42 amelia sf
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