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Re: T&T: Sail costs. fuel costs

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Date: Sun Mar 02 2008 - 21:23:25 EST

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    In a message dated 3/2/08 12:01:36 AM, Bob Phillips writes:

    > Being a sailmaker, I can speak for the relative values of sails
    > versus fuel; fuel is cheaper in an economical boat like mine. If she
    > was a sailboat, a suit of sails would run well north of $20K, last
    > five to six years down here. In eight years of ownership I haven't
    > used $7K in fuel, so am well ahead. Sails deteriorate when they
    > aren't in use, whereas the costs of not operating my machinery are
    > fixed at near zero. Every sailboat I know of a like size puts on
    > almost as many hours and seems to motor more than they sail.
    > Certainly the gens are running just as much.
    >

    Bob,

    With all due respect, I disagree. At least for cruising sailboats and
    motorsailers equipped with suitable cruising sails. I currently own two boats
    with
    sails. One is a 1965 Westerly Nomad twin keel sailboat, only on its second set
    of sails. The first set lasted 25 years, the second is still going strong.
    Both
    were made by Rockall in the UK. The second boat is a 1974 Willard Horizon
    motorsailer still on its original 34 year old set of sails. Replacement of
    either
    set of sails is less than one BU. Certainly a good deal less than replacement
    of an engine or the fuel cost that appropriate sail use has eliminated.

    On the other hand I used to race an Ericson 36. In the racing world sails get
    changed every several years, not because they wear out but because they
    stretch and lose the carefully engineered shape the sailmakers put in. But the
    sails don't "wear out." They just become less competitive in a sport where
    success
    is measured in performance differences smaller than one percent.

    Certainly if you keep your sails on the mast or jib furled, exposed to
    tropical sunlight, the fabric will deteriorate in time. But most prudent
    sailors use
    sail covers or acrylic sunshields on jibs. These extend sail life for years.
    And I've never heard of sails deteriorating when stored in a sail bag during
    long periods of motoring.

    I am a trawler advocate and in my old age I prefer the certainty of power to
    the ambiguity of the wind but, at least from my experience, to say that sails
    are a more expensive form of propulsion than fuel is absurd.

    Sorry Georg.

    Larry Z

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