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Re: T&T: <Trawlers versus motor yachts - < VBG with tongue in cheek >

From: Arild Jensen (no email)
Date: Fri Feb 29 2008 - 22:14:39 EST

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Dave Morin
    > That's why I posted the inquiry - why do they say that?

    REPLY
    Here we go again!! <VBG> If you ain't fishing with a big net ya ain't
    trawl'ering.

    It used to be boaters used sensible DESCRIPTIVE words that really meant
    something.
    You either had a full displacement hull, or a semi displacement hull or a
    planing hull.
    The topsides were more often than not described by functional appearance.
    It was either a runabout (day boat) a cabin cruiser ( you could sleep
    aboard) or it was a motor yacht, (meaninG it had all the amenities and more
    than likely A stateroom for sleeping in).

    Then the marketing hucksters got into the act with marketing bafflegab.

    Back then there was a good reason for this sensible nomenclature.
    It meant people instantly knew approximately what you were talking about and
    describing to the other guy.
    It was possible to have a cabin cruiser with a displacement hull or a
    planing hull. Or a motor yacht with a displacement hull.

    Not only did this simple nomenclature quickly identify the kind of craft and
    its general performance characteristics but it sure made it easy to describe
    a missing boat to a SAR unit or volunteers out helping to look for over due
    boaters.
    Form followed function and the description made sense.

     - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Trawler or Motor Yacht???
    If you are going fishing; you want a trawler; one that drags a net! <grin>
    If you don't want to drag a big net, but want to use long lines, you want a
    Troller.
    Now; if you are going for bottom fish you might want a dragger that pulls a
    weighted net with wings across the bottom, and for that you really need
    some hefty muscle in the E/R department.
    Fuel consumption is gonna kill you unless you bring in a big haul. And
    seeing how slow these boats are, you better have some kind of accomodations.
    You ain't gonna make it home tonite.

    Which brings up another point < even bigger grin >
    The onlly way you are going to be able to afford paying for all that fuel is
    to haul tons of fish each trip.
    That means a big, fat, beamy boat with huge cargo capacity in the hold.
    When she is emty she'll roll 'er guts out and you are likely spewing yours
    for the first day or so.
    Mind you; she will settle down and ride nice, once you put a few tons of
    cargo in the hold. That's a TRAWLER!

    On the other hand if you prefer to make a smaller catch but want it back on
    the wharf in a hurry, get a troller!
    They have a narrow beam so they run like a dolphin and rides just as nice as
    can be.
    Since you don't make as much per cargo haul, you need a really cheap-to-run
    engine that gives you maximum economy.
    Also means you are just 'a sipping the fuel as you troll your long lines at
    about 3 - 4 knots.

    O'course iffen you are jist out to impress your dock buddies wahl now, . . .
    then ya be wanting a flash packet an 'dere be all kinds of dem hanging round
    the Sunday sailor docks. <grin> They don't seem to leave home dock very
    often so you get plenty of time to go have a look-see. Mind you, don't go
    kickin' the fenders like you would on a used car.

    Jist talk to some of dem used-car-salesmen-gone-boating types (calls
    demselves brokers like they was selling bonds or sumtin)
    and you will see they have all sort interesting names for the sunday sailor
    wanting a flash packet. They got names tha'll conjure up any kinda dream you
    fancy.

    (with apologies to honest brokers who do find a match for boat and buyer
    that is made in heaven)

    Dave asks:
    > Is it fuel economy, sea worthiness, looks, something psychological,
    > macho, etc.? It isn't obvious to me and I've been planning on
    > getting a Trawler for a year until I discovered Cockpit Motor
    > Yachts. Now it isn't as clear to me why I'm so hesitant to change
    > direction.

    REPLY < VBG>
    ECONOMY - for that you want a small engine just big enough to drive the
    boat at displacement speed + 15% extra.

    SEA WORTHINESS - High flared bows, that rides up and over the big rollers
    and throws spray out to the side, instead of scooping it up on deck. The
    hull is rounded for a gentle motion that doesn't throw you across the cabin
    in a nasty chop; and small portholes that stand up to the occasional cross
    wave that smacks you really hard. You want a smooth soft ride that doesn't
    upset you sensibilities or make you have your breakfast twice. Once coming
    and once going. If you are going to fish I suggest you chop up some bait
    fish for chum. That store bought people food doesn't work too good! <grin>

    LOOKS! oh boy! Boats are like wives and I don't comment on the looks of
    another man's wife. Especially within his hearing. They are ALL pretty!

    PSYCHOLOGICAL. Hmmm? mebbe I outta stay clear o dat one as well. BUT I have
    to ask.
    What makes a guy want to ride in a MARAUDER, or go cruisin' around in a
    COBRA, and go for a spin in a cigarette or a StingRay.. . . . . But I
    really wonder 'bout guys wantin a HUMMER?

    Gee guys; why don't we just go fishing? <VBG>

    Now once upon a time, boat models bore the name of their designer.
    Honorable names like Herreshof, Atkins, Colin Archer, Trumphy, Cris Craft,
    Monk Gardner, Huckins and Bertram to name but a few. (With apologies to
    anyone whose favorite I omitted)
    The list is simply endless. These names actually stood for something and
    told you what kind of design you were looking at.

    so what's in a name? The marketing boys have discovered that many buyers
    simply want to be a legend in their own mind.

    Cheers

    Arild

    Now who's gonna fish and who's gonna cut bait?
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