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Re: T&T: Propellers for that 50' trawler

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Date: Mon Feb 18 2008 - 07:05:36 EST

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    Hi Larry -
     
    Thanks for an informative and interesting post on propeller efficiency. Your
    posts always get me thinking.
     
    The differences propeller speed and diameter make are quite substantial,
    and although a 3-blade is more efficient than a 4, there is a downside. The
    blades on a four are so much less prone to bending when colliding with flotsam
    that a four is usually fitted to trawlers at the expense of efficiency.
     
    With today's higher-speed engines, maximizing prop efficiency becomes
    difficult because the increased size of a lower ratio reduction gear is difficult
    to fit, and results in an increased shaft angle, which is also less
    efficient. Fitting ideal larger, slower turning propeller also has a limit because
    the minimum boat speed (at idle) becomes excessive. Sufficient aperture space
    and blade tip immersion are also likely to limit prop size to something less
    than ideal.
     
     
    One question - is your Willard's propeller a 3 or a 4 blade?

     
    Regards,
     
    John
    "Seahorse"

    > My Willard Horizon is 30' LOA and has a waterline of 27.5 ft. It displaces
    16,000 lbs. Power is provided by a venerable Perkins 4-107 driving an 18x14
    prop
    through a 2.57 BW Velvet Drive reduction gear. Hull speed is almost exactly
    7
    knots. The power required to reach this speed is 22.4 hp, a figure confirmed
    by fuel consumption over several long cruises.

    At an engine rpm of 2000 with my current 18x14 prop, the efficiency is
    approximately 42% and the static thrust is 665.5 lbs. Maximum efficiency
    with my
    current setup would be realized with a 23x14.8 prop. With the engine turning
    at
    the same rpm the efficiency would be 54% and the static thrust would be 793
    lbs. The five inches of additional diameter would gain me a 28% boost in
    efficiency and would be the equivalent of adding a number of extra horses to
    my hard
    working engine. Alternately it would reduce my fuel consumption by about 25%.

    If I should reduce the prop diameter to 16", the efficiency would drop to
    38%
    and the static thrust would be 612 lbs. If I should choose to swing a 30"
    prop, using a 3.5 reduction ratio, the efficiency would rise to 61%. With a
    36"
    prop the efficiency would be 67%. I doubt that such a prop would fit on my
    boat
    but the general idea is clear.

    For displacement boats we can see that prop efficiency is very dependent on
    diameter. The engine should be turning the largest prop that will fit the
    hull.
    The gear ratio and prop pitch should be adjusted to achieve hull speed.
    Theoretically is is possible to get up to 75% efficiency with very large,
    very slow
    turning props.

    So the range of powers suggested for that 50' ft. trawler, from 100 to 200
    hp, are correct. It all depends on the efficiency of the prop.

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