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Re: T&T: DC Gensets

From: David&Joan (no email)
Date: Sun Feb 03 2008 - 14:15:29 EST

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    More thoughts on DC gensets:

    If all of your loads are DC, ie battery charging, then a DC genset makes a
    lot of sense. A large frame DC alternator of 150-200 amps or so at 12V,
    driven by a modern 3 stage regulator, can put a lot of amps into a battery
    bank quickly. These regulators are optimized for just that purpose, whereas
    shorepower based chargers may not be.

    But if you have any significant AC loads then an AC genset makes more sense.
    On a prior boat I had a 5 kw Northern Lights AC genset. Each day or so I
    would start it up and run it to supply AC to the Freedom 25, 100 amp
    charger/2500 watt inverter. This loaded the genset to about 2 kw with
    charging loads. Then when the charger started cutting back to about 1 kw
    after 45 minutes, I would flip the water heater breaker on and load it back
    up to 2 kw or better for another 45 minutes until the water heater
    thermostat tripped. At that point the batteries had gotten about 100
    amphours and I shut the genset down. I repeated the cycle the next day.

    I could do the same while running a 16,000 BTU A/C, but only if I started
    the A/C first. The AC would not restart with all of the other loads on the
    genset.

    If I were doing the same thing with a DC genset, the first 45 minutes or so
    would charge the batteries at 150 or so amps. Then after the charging
    current dropped, I would turn on the inverter to supply AC to the water
    heater and it would draw about 100 amps to power the water heater coil.
    Charging would be a bit faster, because of the first 45 minutes at 150+ amps
    (assuming I had the right battery bank to accept it). But I couldn't run the
    A/C at the same time that I was heating water. The A/C draws 16 amps and the
    water heater draws at least 10amps and that is the more than most inverters
    can supply. Plus it is more DC amps than some DC gensets can supply.

    Efficiency of either scheme is about the same. DC gensets and DC power
    distribution is less efficient than AC (high current and alternator
    rectification losses), but you don't have the losses in the battery charger
    to deal with on an AC system, but you do have them on the inverter side of
    the equation. Again if most of your loads are DC then it probably is a wash.
    If they are mostly AC loads then the advantage is with the AC genset.

    So, I guess that is why 99.9% of all trawlers with a genset, have an AC
    genset. Actually I have never seen or heard of a DC genset in a trawler and
    have only heard about them in a sailboat.

    David
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