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Re: T&T: Logbooks

From: Kim Boyce & Eric Thoman (no email)
Date: Sat Dec 01 2007 - 15:04:39 EST

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    Larry wrote:

    How about some specs for log books for 40-60 ft commercial passenger boats?
    Or boats 40-60 ft in the coastal trade? Those boats are similar in size to
    pleasure trawlers.

    Reply:

    That would be us. I can tell you what we do, right or wrong. I can say
    that we originally learned from a couple of BC Pilots who ran tugboats for
    20 some plus years. We have also had our logbook looked at many many times
    by USCG, Canadian Coast Guard, RCMP, US and CN Customs, WA Fish and
    Wildlife, Alaska State Troopers, ADF&G and others. We get boarded
    frequently and it is always a pleasant experience. Mostly, they are curious
    as to what the heck we are. We usually get to tour whatever vessel or
    floatplane they are on. Several times we have had law enforcement aboard as
    customers and it turns into a big "meet and greet." The logbook immediately
    gives an impression of responsibility as does a document book that has all
    of our licenses, permits, insurance and vessel documentation (rabies
    certificates for pets, etc.). More importantly, our insurance says very
    clearly that it is void if we do not log our customers arrival and
    departure. Producing the logbook in answer to a simple question such as
    "when did you cross the border?" or "where did you catch the crab?"
    generally concludes the discussion with a precise answer.

    The logbook is also a diary that we return to frequently to refresh our
    memories as to how long a trip took, where we anchored, what the holding
    was, did we like someplace, etc.

    The BC Pilots taught us to be brief on most entries. Date, time, location
    (abeam of XYZ point) wind and sea state, visibility. We log about once an
    hour or when a significant event occurs. On the Inside Passage we tend to
    log at the Vessel Traffic check in points although we do not call in. It
    helps us know where the large vessels are by tracking them relative to us.

    We log the old fashioned way with a "Masters Log" book although we do not
    follow the headings in the columns. In a former professional life, I had a
    case (not a maritime issue) where a maintenance log was changed after the
    fact to cover up what was done. It was a very simple matter to have a
    handwriting expert identify an inserted item into a logged entry. They can
    tell if you write continuously. Your handwriting gives away far more than
    just your identity. Obviously, a keyboard and an electronic entry will not
    do this.

    I tried to use my Log to convince a girl at a video store that we could not
    have turned the movie in late because we left town two days earlier. She
    very quickly said "You could have given it to a friend to watch after you
    left town, and then he turned it in late." I lost that one!

    It does not need to become a chore. I would find a system that works for
    you and stick with it.

    Eric Thoman
    Abyssinia
    www.kayaktransport.com
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