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Re: T&T: Advantages and Disadvantages of Cold Molded Epoxy Hull vs.

From: Alan Wagner (no email)
Date: Sun Apr 22 2007 - 18:48:22 EDT

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    I would not so quickly jump to the conclusion that steel beats aluminum on
    the issue of strength. It depends:

    http://kastenmarine.com/aluminum.htm :

    "It takes over 60,000 pounds per square inch (psi) to tear apart a chunk of
    mild steel, and 30,000 psi to deform the same piece, to make it yield. With
    aluminum, around 45,000 psi will tear it apart, and around 35,000 psi will
    deform it. Yes, you read that correctly: size for size, aluminum has a
    higher yield strength. In these facts lie the extreme benefits of metal for
    hull construction: The "plastic range" of either metal is quite high, so the
    material can take a terrific beating without failure."

    "An aluminum bare hull, built to the same strength standard, will weigh
    roughly 45% less than the same hull in steel. As a result, if high strength
    is of the highest priority, the aluminum boat can be built to the same
    structural weight as the steel vessel, and then be considerably stronger."

    http://kastenmarine.com/alumVSsteel.htm

    "Again, for the sake of an easy to follow comparison, we might say that "one
    inch" of steel plate will yield beyond its ability to recover its original
    shape at approximately 36k psi, and will fail at approximately 60k psi.
    A "strength-equivalent" aluminum structure, having used deflection
    (stiffness) as the design criteria, will have been built using roughly 50%
    greater plate thickness. We might then say that this strength-equivalent
    one and a half inch" thick aluminum plate will yield at around 51k per
    square inch of surface area (around 29% greater yield strength than the
    equivalent" region of steel plate), and will fail at around 67.5k psi
    (around 12.5% greater ultimate strength than the "equivalent" region of
    steel plate)."
    Both of the above are pretty good explanations of the steel vs aluminum
    issue.

    Alan Wagner
    Tampa, Florida
    Building (Kasten designed) "Passage of Time" in aluminum
    http://kastenmarine.com/valdemar52.htm
    http://yachtsmiths.com/valdemar_52_gallery_01.htm

    -------Original Message-------

    From: Robin
    Date: 4/22/2007 5:01:33 PM

    I don't think you can beat steel for rugged strength: if you could beat it
    easily, then many trawlers,draggers, and other offshore commercial vessels
    would be cold molded. Even in Europe and the far east. So steel wins on
    strength, durability and ease of repairs.
                                    . . .

    Aluminum is next in strength with some weight savings, but that's not
    significant for most recreational boats. In fact, the strength of steel or
    aluminum isn't even necessary for most recreational trawlers of moderate
    size..

                                    . . .

    Rob Brueckner
    Hatteras YF
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