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Re: T&T: About Albins (Was: Single vs twins)

From: Albin43SDtr (no email)
Date: Wed Mar 28 2007 - 21:06:20 EDT

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    'Lo All,

    I sent this earlier to someone else privately, but there seems to be
    more general interest in these boats than I thought. I made a few
    changes to add clarity:

    The Celestial, our boat, is an Albin 43 Sundeck with twin Cummins
    6BT5.9M engines. As any boat, it is a compromise in features. It is
    galley-down, which gives a more stable ride for the cook at work, but
    my wife would have preferred a galley-up so she could see out. There
    are portlights in the galley and dining area, but they are not much
    good for watching the scenery slide by from the galley. The sundeck
    is really nice, but don't try to land a fish while on it - go to the
    side which is much lower (I lost a 4'+ King Mackerel because my gaff
    hook was not long enough). :( .

    I am glad the Celestial has twin Cummins engines. She is a dream to
    dock. They are quite economical and easy to work on. Parts are
    readily available. On a 30 day trip shortly after we purchased her,
    we averaged, as I recall, about 2.5 gal/nm, including several days on
    the hook, using the 8 kW generator which provided air conditioning. :)

    The Albin 43 is a fair boat in a seaway - I've seen better, and a lot
    worse. We have been in 5-6' seas and were not too concerned with them
    (don't want to be broadside to them). The flared bow definitely makes
    for a dry ride (but don't bury the bow in a wave). As with any boat
    without stabilizers, she has a natural roll period, so one must
    accommodate that (by varying speed and the angle of wave entry) in
    order to have a comfortable ride when the seas are up over, say 3'.
    We have never had to slow down due to seas, but then, we only run at
    8-9 kts anyway.

    I have been told that many Albin and MT hulls came from the same
    moulds. The following is what I have been told by folks that should
    know: The method of construction of the Albin boats is what
    differentiates them from the Marine Traders (MT). MT boats were
    usually made by a family actually moving into the hull and building
    the boat while living in it. If the family was talented, a good boat
    was made, but if not.... The Albins were all made in a more
    conventional manner in a boatyard. The interior parts were made in a
    cabinetry shop, as evidenced by each drawer and cabinet having the
    hull number written inside to assure it went to the right boat.

    The aft stateroom is what really sold my wife on the boat. The
    centerline queen bed and the tub/shower in the head. We have never
    had all the closets and cabinets full. There is a LOT of storage
    space. The emergency tiller is stored under the bed and is made to
    extend up through the sundeck so the one steering can see where he is
    going - not so in many boats. The bed is one of the most comfortable
    ones I have ever slept on.

    The sundeck construction really surprised me. It is like a box beam.
    I have never seen a boat built that way. The fiberglass (FG) deck is
    moulded with athwartship teak strips on the outside. All teak decking
    is then screwed into these strips. This means that there are none of
    the usual hundreds of screw holes penetrating the decks. After the
    main FG deck is laid up, stringers are glassed in that run
    athwartship and longitudinally, forming a grid. These are glassed in,
    but the glass does not extend around the teak stringers, leaving what
    will be the bottom side bare. All of the stringers and teak strips
    appear to be trapezoidally shaped, which would physically lock the
    wood to the FG. All electrical wiring is then installed. Quarter inch
    plywood with sound suppressing foam and vinyl covering is then glued
    to the stringers and screwed to hold it in place. I found all this
    out when I installed a security system with deck stress sensors. The
    plywood was hard to remove!!!! I once had 13 people (I think it was)
    on the sundeck for a funeral at sea ceremony. I was concerned and
    watched the deck carefully for any sign of over stressing. None. I
    was/am impressed.

    The lower helm on most boats with dual helms is very sparsely
    equipped. We equipped the Celestial fully for operation from the
    lower helm. In the summer, we have to run her from the lower helm so
    as to be in an air conditioned environment.

    We really like the Celestial. After looking at lots of boats, I
    believe that our Albin is as good as any Ocean Alexander (OA) of the
    same vintage - and was priced at about one half of a comparable OA.

    As with airplanes, boat values are generally a composite of three
    things: Hull, engine(s) and electronics. Judge each individually,
    then add up the values. I love our Cummins engines. The hull was in
    good shape, but had blisters (which was part of the
    evaluation/price). Electronics were sparse and antiquated. We added
    each value up and made an offer, which, while significantly less than
    the asking price, was accepted after we explained how we came up with
    the amount.

    Good luck on your search.

    Take care and be safe.

    Wayne
    M/V Celestial
    Albin43 Sundeck
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