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T&T: Garmin Cartography (was: Updating basemap charts ...)

From: Kevin Redden (no email)
Date: Sun Mar 04 2007 - 12:30:06 EST

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > Anyway, I thought the 492 unit (without the sounder) would work, ..........
    > ................................The manager
    > and a sales person in one of the local West Marine stores assured me
    > that Garmin would have something available to update the base maps. Not
    > being one to believe anything a sales person says without checking
    > further, I asked Garmin tech support via a question-form on their web site.

     
    Hi Bob,

    I don't see why you would be concerned about Garmin's proprietary cartography
    products - they don't burn their customers too often with out of date
    cartography - only as shown below!

    In the '90s, they sold chartplotters with their proprietary G Charts. When they
    decided to switch to Blue Charts, they abandoned their old customers who had
    bought the G Chart units, leaving them with expensive hardware and no way to get
    updated charts.

    Then, they came out with their US Waterways CD, and sold it with their mapping
    GPS units like the eMap. The cartography on the CD had every ATON in the US, and
    although it did not have water depths, it was still quite useful. After I had
    one for a year, I started inquiring about getting updates for the cartography on
    the CD. After doing quite a bit of digging with sources at Garmin, it turned out
    that from the day that product was first put on the market, it was intended as a
    one-shot, with no plans for any way to update the cartography data base. Garmin
    continued to sell that CD for several years, knowing that the ATON database was
    years old and out of date.

    For a fair number of years, Garmin has now been selling Blue Charts as their
    standard cartography product. Unfortunately, the price to get updated CDs for
    cartography that you've already purchased is atrociously high. They seem to want
    to only sell new product, and not encourage current owners to buy updated
    charts.

    Garmin's web site now shows them hawking their latest chartplotters - and guess
    what? They've done it again! The new units only run the brand new Blue Chart G2
    charts, and not the standard Blue Charts they've been selling for the past six
    or so years. How long do you think it will be until they orphan the owners of
    the Blue Chart chartplotters - the same way they orphaned the owners of the
    earlier G Chart units?

    Of course, all this begs the question that you raised. Garmin is selling a line
    of chartplotter products like the GPSMAP 492, with built in cartography. These
    products appear to have been designed and sold from day one with no plan to
    support their customers with any way to update them - just as they did with the
    US Waterways CD.

    But hey - it's a great unit when you first buy it. Why would you ever worry
    about Garmin abandoning you and sticking you with obsolete charting data?

    Kevin
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