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T&T: Turbo diesels cruised at low RPM

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Date: Sun Jul 30 2006 - 10:56:37 EDT

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    Hi John,
     
    I gave you my very biased opinion on boat design a few weeks ago and now
    will add more of my very biased opinion about cruising a turbo diesel boat at
    less that 75% to 80% of wide open throttle. Keep in mind that this advice may
    only be worth what you pay for it, so here goes.
     
    I'll start with my own personal experience rather than a bunch of "here say"
    or stories that I have heard on the docks or have read on T&T at some point
    in time. Our 46 foot boat weighs in at between 35000 and 40000 pounds
    depending on fuel and water loads and weather we are heading out fully provisioned
    or coming home after a few months in the Bahamas. The boat is powered by a
    pair of 3208 Turbo charged 375 hp Cats with over 3000 hours on them with most
    of those hours having been run in the 1200 to 1400 rpm range which is just
    below 50% of WOT. I do run the engines up and blow them out every week or so
    when out cruising but never to WOT.
    The boat is 20 years old and I know that 98% of the last 2500 hours have
    been run at these lower cruising RPM's. The boat starts and performs just as
    well today as it did when I only had 500 hours on the engines, and uses no
    more oil or fuel than it did when we started cruising the boat back in 2000.
    My normal cruising speed is slightly over 8 knots but we will average only
    slightly more that 7 knots after slowing down for bridges, locks. no wake zones
    and while meeting other boats in narrow channels or entering and leaving
    marinas or harbor areas. I have kept running totals since 2001 and have
    traveled approximately 20000 Statute miles in that time and these fuel burn numbers
    include my 8 kw Onan generator which has over 2000 hours of run time since
    the year 2000. My fuel burn is has been right at 4.25 GPH and we have
    averaged just under 1.7 MPG, and remember that this includes the fuel for the 2000+
    hours on the generator. I have heard all kinds of horror stories about
    running larger turbo engines at slow speeds but can only report that my real life
    experiences does not mirror all of those stories that I have heard over the
    years.
     
    And what would a post be here without some opinion thrown in, so here is
    some of mine<VBG>.
     
    Go on the web and check out the trawlers and cruisers for sale to see how
    many Grand Banks, Flemmings , Defevers and various other similar cruising boats
    are listed for sale with Cat 3208 turbos and then ask yourself how many
    thousand have been sold with these engines over the last 20 or 25 years. It's
    my opinion that most of these boats mentioned above are not cruising the
    waterways with these engines running at approximately 2000 RPM (Or 75% to 80%of
    WOT) as I have passed thousands of them over the years and I see very few
    squatting down in the water moving fast and throwing a big wake, which is what
    would happen to most of them if they were cruising at these higher engine
    RPM'S. I'd be willing to bet that most of the hours logged with these boats is
    more in the 40% to 60% of WOT range and I doubt that any of them have suffered
    bad consequences from this kind of running if they have been maintained
    properly.
     
    While attending a Defever rendezvous few years ago I asked John Green, who
    is director of training for Pan Tropic, the authorized Cat dealer with several
    locations here in south Florida about running my Cat's at slower RPM's while
    cruising. His comment was - "in 25 years of working around these engines I
    have never seen an engine damaged by running it too slowly"!
     
    I think I'll believe him!!!!!!--and that has also been my experience!!!!!

    John and Karen Siscoe
    CHATEAU/ Defever 46 Sport Cruiser
    Karens Cell 813 765 6660 (Cingular)
    Johns Cell 813 951 3610 (Verizon)
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