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T&T: 10/2 vs 2/2 redux

From: Peter Pisciotta (no email)
Date: Mon Jul 03 2006 - 12:58:01 EDT

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    > Somewhere there must be a
    > manufacturers rationale and test
    > results that support the staged
    > filter method and that it is not
    > based on old stationary engine history

    We already know a 2-micron filter will clog a lot
    faster than a 10-micron filter - ask anyone on this
    list who runs 2-micron primaries for validation -
    chances are, they've had to change their primaries
    while underway. Question is: is there benefit to
    running 2/2 filtration (2-micron primary, 2-micron
    secondary) over 10/2 (so-called stepped filtration,
    the industry standard)?

    I'll pose this question to the 2/2 folks: the fear is
    having the eingine-mounted filter clog underway and
    then have to replace, prime, and re-start the engine
    (the "Oh my gawd" factor). But is there any
    first-hand, real-life experience to back this up? I
    mean, is there actually gunk that gets past a
    10-micron primary and clogs a 2-micron secondary
    between service intervals? Personally, I've never had
    it happen, but concede it's possible so the question
    becomes does that risk outweigh 1) vastly increased
    liklihood of 2/2 clogging (monitoring is, after all, a
    manual process and glass bowls eventually get foggy);
    2) risk of possible engine damage due to elevated
    vacuum and fuel temps; and finally 3) the remarkably
    consistent guidance of billions of dollars of R&D and
    warranty dollars?

    But the 2/2 position seems so, well, logical - where's
    the flaw? I suspect the answer lies in the microscopic
    nature of the particles. We are worried about the
    stuff we can see (fuel tank gunk - rust, dirt, water,
    asphaltines, etc). The engine manufacturers are
    worried about microscopic-sized particles. At that
    level, they're okay with 10/2 filtration (in fact,
    they recommend it). Sure, a 2-micron filter will
    filter out the big crud, but unless the filter is very
    large, it will load-up and clog, placing a burden on
    the engine (their concern) and potentially cause the
    engine to starve/die mid-ocean (my concern). According
    to the experts (and my personal experience), using a
    properly maintained 10/2 system will not cause the
    2-micron secondary to clog and an unexpected engine
    stop, but using a 2/2 system may.

    So, I think I've laid out the 10/2 position pretty
    well, albeit belabored (its not a simple position).
    I'll look for the 2/2 folks to move past logic and
    post their actual experiences with clogged 2-micron
    secondaries when installed in a 10/2 system. Depending
    upon that outcome (as I said, I've never had it
    happen), I'll have to weigh that evidence with the
    liklihood of having a 2-micron primary clog in a 2/2
    system. I think that's the heart of the decision, at
    least for me.

    Peter
    www.SeaSkills.com
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