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T&T: Racors 2 micron vs 10 micron AKA belts and suspenders

From: GARY RITZMAN (no email)
Date: Mon Jul 03 2006 - 00:42:09 EDT

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    1) This is the message I put to our group:
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: GARY RITZMAN<mailto:>
    To: Trawlers-samurai<mailto:>
    Cc: <mailto:>
    Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:19 PM
    Subject: Racors 2 micron vs 10 micron

    SNIP: If your going to tell me
    I'm wrong then back it up with rational thought and logic and maybe I will
    learn
     something. Brian Palmetto FL

    Brian and many others: Good point. So how do we know the micron level of CAV
    secondary filters on a Lehman 135SP? I have seen a lot of inference that it
    might be 2 micron but how do we know that? If it is not 2 micron then the
    engine does not require 2 micron anywhere?
    <<<Gary Ritzman>>> M/V Dharma Albin 40 Mercer Island WA

    2) The only answer I have seen is from Philip Odom:

    Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 08:26:56 -0400
    From: "Philip Odom"
    <<http://by106fd.bay106.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?cur
    mbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&a=b6132ddb2f34fb28c989ffb063f51c1b0
    dc3ffbb624231d46043ba0b58e1c4d1&mailto=1&to=&msg=07D6CB04-6
    7DE-4ECF-B234-FE32E78E6009&start=0&len=50128&src=&type=x>>
    Subject: T&T: Racors 2 micron vs 10 micron (who knows?)
    I think I posted this years ago when this type of subject came up. I
    questioned the micron rating of the CAV filters that most of us use and Wix
    says their filter is 10 micron (part # 33166) and Lucas/Delphi claims theirs
    (part # 7111-296) is 5-7 micron. Wix techs dispute Lucas... Probably Racor
    would have their own spin on the subject..
    Below are the emails I received FYI.
    Good luck,
    Phil

    (Contact From WIXFILTERS)
    >Our 33166 part number is a direct cross reference to the Lucas 7111-296
    > part number. This is the same part number used by C.A.V. who invented
    this
    > type of filter. Their filter contains media that is rated at 10 micron
    > like ours. It does not have 2 micron media. A particle that is 1
    > micrometer (micron) in diameter is .000039" across. The average human
    hair
    > has a diameter of 70 microns and the human eye can not see anything under
    > 40 microns without magnification. The difference between 2 and 10 microns
    > is measurable in the lab but is real life it makes very little, if any.
    > performance difference.
    >
    > Thank you for your inquiry.
    >
    > Chris Greeson
    > Technical Service Representative

    (Contact from Lucas/Delphi)
    > The Delphi HDF296 has a micron rating of between 5-7 micron (average
    > contaminant size in testing is 6.9 micron). Its average retention is not
    > less than 85% and is normally around 95%. The rolled paper-type design of

    > the filter was pioneered by Delphi, and it still remains the benchmark for
    > this kind of filter.
    >
    > I hope that this answers your question, and if you have any further
    queries,
    > please do not hesitate to contact me.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Ian Girle
    > Product Manager
    > Filtration

    3) If CAV secondaries are 10 micron then I have to suspect that the good
    people arguing in favor of 2 micron primaries must wear belts and
    suspenders-perhaps two of each?

    <<<Gary Ritzman>>> M/V Dharma Albin 40 Mercer Island WA
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