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Go gettum John:
Ferhevinsake people, it's just a boat. I've spent many
a happy hour fishing for halibut in Alaska on a Trophy
24. Never felt like I wanted to hide my head or that a
deadly capsize was eminent. It's just not a Trawler.
Neither are most of the boats owned by folks on the
forum. Give 'em a break!
Dan
--- John Hurley <> wrote:
> A Bayliner 5288 is 56' LOA, displaces 52,000-54,000
> pounds and cruises at
> 17-18 knots (22 knots wide open) with a pair of
> 610hp MAN's or 635 Cummins
> (gulping down 68 gph at WOT). This boat is propped
> very tall. In fact,
> someone standing on the swimstep helping with lines
> will get tossed in the
> drink when the boat is put in gear if they are not
> expecting it and holding
> on. The props are 32" diam x 34" pitch spinning on
> 3" shafts. At idle
> speed in gear, the boat does 6 knots. It is
> impossible to leave no wake
> without taking the transmissions in and out of gear.
> In long no wake zones
> I would put one engine in gear and compensate with
> the wheel. Trolling
> valves on the ZF's would solve this but TV's are not
> the sort of accessory
> one would expect to see on a cruising yacht and not
> standard equipment.
>
> A Bayliner 3988 displaces 11 tons and with 270, 330
> or 370 Cummins will
> cruise at 18-22 knots (27 WOT). Its wake is
> significant as well.
>
> Either one, with an inconsiderate skipper at the
> help, is capable of
> displacing a lot of water; enough to repel most any
> boater, save the
> occasional testosterone-infused adolescent on a
> PWC's looking for air. The
> same would be true of Carvers, Silverton's, OA's,
> Tolly's, or any other
> heavy, semi-displacement, yacht.
>
> It's the skipper, not the boat.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
>
>
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> On Behalf Of
> gerankin
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:03 PM
> To:
> Subject: T&T: Bayliners
>
> The biggest problem that I have with Bayliners is
> their wake, it does seem
> to be much larger than other boats. It is hard to
> know for sure if that is
> the operator or the hull design. Others would know
> more than I do, but I
> think that they are relatively heavy for a
> semi-displacement boat (all those
> included options) and are pushing a big bow wake
> with lots of horsepower.
>
> However, I have noticed that whenever a big ugly
> white boat gives us a huge
> wake we assume that it is a Bayliner. I'm pretty
> sure that some of those
> boats have been Carvers, so maybe "Bayliner" is a
> state of mind. I have
> also noticed that the newer Grand Banks can push
> tsunami-sized wakes at
> times. (Some of the roughest crossings I have made
> have been in calm
> weather during the Summer in the San Juans. Fourth
> of July weekend can be
> worth your life.)
>
> My parents still own the large Trophy (28' I think,
> not made any more.) It
> was a decent boat once they used aquarium sealer on
> the windows, and it has
> only set itself on fire once (badly done connection
> in the shore power
> outlet box, they were aboard and put it out
> immediately.)
>
> The Bayliner state of mind that I don't understand
> is why they seem to aim
> at us, even in very wide channels. I usually make
> a wide course correction
> to avoid them and their wake, but invariably they
> will turn to intercept us
> on as close a course as possible.
>
> George Rankin
> Oyster Catcher (Camano Troll)
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