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Re: T&T: Bayliners

From: John Hurley (no email)
Date: Wed Feb 01 2006 - 00:08:28 EST

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    A Bayliner 5288 is 56' LOA, displaces 52,000-54,000 pounds and cruises at
    17-18 knots (22 knots wide open) with a pair of 610hp MAN's or 635 Cummins
    (gulping down 68 gph at WOT). This boat is propped very tall. In fact,
    someone standing on the swimstep helping with lines will get tossed in the
    drink when the boat is put in gear if they are not expecting it and holding
    on. The props are 32" diam x 34" pitch spinning on 3" shafts. At idle
    speed in gear, the boat does 6 knots. It is impossible to leave no wake
    without taking the transmissions in and out of gear. In long no wake zones
    I would put one engine in gear and compensate with the wheel. Trolling
    valves on the ZF's would solve this but TV's are not the sort of accessory
    one would expect to see on a cruising yacht and not standard equipment.

    A Bayliner 3988 displaces 11 tons and with 270, 330 or 370 Cummins will
    cruise at 18-22 knots (27 WOT). Its wake is significant as well.

    Either one, with an inconsiderate skipper at the help, is capable of
    displacing a lot of water; enough to repel most any boater, save the
    occasional testosterone-infused adolescent on a PWC's looking for air. The
    same would be true of Carvers, Silverton's, OA's, Tolly's, or any other
    heavy, semi-displacement, yacht.

    It's the skipper, not the boat.

    -----Original Message-----
    From:
    [mailto:] On Behalf Of
    gerankin
    Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:03 PM
    To:
    Subject: T&T: Bayliners

    The biggest problem that I have with Bayliners is their wake, it does seem
    to be much larger than other boats. It is hard to know for sure if that is
    the operator or the hull design. Others would know more than I do, but I
    think that they are relatively heavy for a semi-displacement boat (all those
    included options) and are pushing a big bow wake with lots of horsepower.

    However, I have noticed that whenever a big ugly white boat gives us a huge
    wake we assume that it is a Bayliner. I'm pretty sure that some of those
    boats have been Carvers, so maybe "Bayliner" is a state of mind. I have
    also noticed that the newer Grand Banks can push tsunami-sized wakes at
    times. (Some of the roughest crossings I have made have been in calm
    weather during the Summer in the San Juans. Fourth of July weekend can be
    worth your life.)

    My parents still own the large Trophy (28' I think, not made any more.) It
    was a decent boat once they used aquarium sealer on the windows, and it has
    only set itself on fire once (badly done connection in the shore power
    outlet box, they were aboard and put it out immediately.)

    The Bayliner state of mind that I don't understand is why they seem to aim
    at us, even in very wide channels. I usually make a wide course correction
    to avoid them and their wake, but invariably they will turn to intercept us
    on as close a course as possible.

    George Rankin
    Oyster Catcher (Camano Troll)
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