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T&T: Loran

From: Faure, Marin (no email)
Date: Wed Nov 02 2005 - 20:36:35 EST

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    >Brent wrote- My Loran would not home in on a position after 30 minutes.
    If anyone in the Anacortes, WA area still uses Loran please check yours
    and let me know if mine has finally bit the dust or the Loran
    transmitters are not working.

    We have a Furuno Loran-C on our GB and we still use it as a backup to
    the GPS C-MapNT chart plotter. We turn the Loran on every time we go
    out, which means we had it on a week and a half ago (Oct. 22-24) when we
    cruised from Bellingham to Sucia and back. The signals were fine during
    that time period.

    I don't know how your Loran unit works, but the late-80s Raytheon unit
    we have on our other boat requires an approximate position to be entered
    the first time it's turned on after having been moved a significant
    distance. For example when we trailer the boat from Seattle to the
    north end of Vancouver Island. This approximate position tells the
    unit what chain to tune to and probably other signal information as
    well. If I do not get the approximate position relatively close it will
    not tune itself properly or display a position no matter how long I
    leave it on. I don't know if the Furuno on our GB has that same
    requirement--- we haven't moved the boat very far without its being on,
    and I don't remember if I had to enter an approximate position when we
    turned it on after the boat was trucked up from California in 1998.
    Anyway, if your unit has this requirement and it's somehow lost its
    basic location--- the internal battery has died (if it has one) or
    something else has happened to confuse it--- you may need to re-enter
    your basic position there in Anacortes.

    If they have done anything recently to improve the accuracy of Loran-C
    it hasn't made itself obvious on our set. The lat/long is the same
    amount off when compared to the GPS as it's always been, but Loran-C has
    been that way ever since we started using it on our first boat back in
    1987. It's my understanding that the timing of the Loran signals can be
    affected by the terrain they pass over. In this area with all the
    islands and bodies of water, the speed of the signals is affected just
    enough to knock the position accuracy off by a sometimes-significant
    amount depending on your location in the islands. The good news is the
    error is consistent. So if you enter a Loran-C waypoint with the boat
    physically at the waypoint, the Loran will return you to that exact spot
    every single time even though the lat/long displayed on the instrument
    will not be your actual position on the planet. The signal error only
    becomes a problem if you use coordinates you plotted on a chart to input
    the position of a waypoint.

    There are still some commercial fisherman around who prefer Loran-C to
    GPS because even with the skew removed from GPS and things like DGPS,
    they claim Loran-C will do a better job of taking them right to a crab
    pot buoy in the kind of heavy fog that makes a buoy invisible if you're
    only 20 or 30 feet away. Of course this may be just a case of them not
    wanting to change from what they're used to....

    But I like Loran-C despite its limitations. We don't cancel a trip when
    it's foggy, so we've put our commonly-traveled routes into the Loran so
    we have a backup navigation system in case the GPS plotter quits. We
    also have a handheld C-MapNT GPS plotter with the same routes, but it
    sometimes ends up on the other boat. So the Loran-C is a nice thing to
    have along.

    ______________________________
    C. Marin Faure
    GB36-403 "La Perouse"
    Bellingham, Washington

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