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From: GARY RITZMAN (no email)
Date: Tue Nov 01 2005 - 15:01:13 EST
This past summer my buddy boat, an Ocean 38 trawler with the same Lehman
SP135's coupled to Borg Warner Velvet Drives as I have, hit a log and his
Drive Saver coupling broke in two with no damage to the prop, shaft, tranny
etc. OTOH I came across the following article while Googling "Drive Saver." It
claims this product, made by Globe Composite Solutions is of little value for
engines less than 200 HP. Would be interested in feedback on this product and
other similar products (PMY advertises a product to reduce vibration).
One final thought: last haul out we installed Spurs) line cutters and they are
worth their weight in gold. Far better to cut your crab trap line (which we
did) than get it wrapped up in the prop. However, because the installation of
this device is coupled to the strut, its position on the drive shaft will have
to be adjusted if we install a shaft spacer device.
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--- Just a caution for those of you that expect that the Globe Drivesaver will, in fact, save your drive. It may not. At least it didn't in my case. For those of you unfamiliar with the Drivesaver, it is a semi rigid disc of polyurethane with threaded inserts embedded in the molding. It is designed to go between the flanges of the coupling and absorb small amounts of vibration and misalignment. The main raison de etre of the Drivesaver is to be a weak link between the reverse gearbox and the propeller driveshaft. In case the prop hits an unyeilding object like a rock or log, the Drivesaver should shear before the shaft bends, the keys break or the teeth in the reduction gear crumble. At least that's what is supposed to happen. In my first test run of the Spring I had the misfortune to hit a protruding branch of a watersoaked log lying beneath the surface. The branch neatly wedged between the keel and the prop of my Willard 30 and the engine stopped immediately. This is when the Drivesaver should have sheared protecting the running gear. What did happen is that the keys and setscrews on the shaft coupling sheared but not before badly scoring the coupling, bending the prop shaft and twisting the engine on the engine mounts nearly an inch out of alignment. After I regained my composure and limped back to the boatyard (using the tiny Minnekota trolling motor get home drive) I took a good hard look at the literature that came with the Drivesaver. My Perkins 4-107 with a Velvet Drive 2.57 reduction gear supplies 162 ft. lbs. of torque at rated output. The model 504 Drivesaver specified for the Velvet Drive output flange is rated for 675 ft. lbs. of torque. When the prop hit the log the rotating inertia of the engine and drive sheared the keys and bent the shaft. As far as my driveline was concerned the Drivesaver might as well have been cast iron. A call to the Globe company confirmed that the Drivesaver was intended for engines in the 200+ hp. range, not the 36 hp of the Perkins. I know a lot of sail boat and trawler owners that have employed these coupling dampers to increase the flexibility of their driveline and reduce vibration and shock loadings. The current crop of such dampers, made by Globe, PYI, and other companies are intended for high power engines and are made of polyurethane far too stiff to provide much flexibility and breakaway safety for lower powered trawler engines. Unless we can prevail upon the suppliers to use a softer plastic in their moldings for lower powered boats, their use adds little benefit for trawler owners. Larry Zeitlin PUFFIN Cortlandt Manor, NY _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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