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Re: T&T: Accidents and Paying Passengers

From: Jeffrey Folino (no email)
Date: Tue Oct 04 2005 - 23:51:15 EDT

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    Mike Wrote-

    > A few observations. I can not see how any of these 3 accidents has
    > any rational excuse. The lake accident may be a case of overloading,
    > which I am highly suspicious of.

    This evening's news and today's papers (Albany Times Union) contain some
    interesting observations. The Ethan Allen is a 1960's era boat that was
    originally designed without a hard top or side windows. These were added in
    recent years ( I believe in the 1990's).

    Tonight's news on CBS station WRGB had an exclusive interview with the first
    person to call 911. She observed the capsizing and reports that this boat
    was obviously unstable. She also commented that there was no "large wake"
    from another boat. Nor were there any weather or water conditions that
    obviously contributed to the accident. In her opinion, it was a case where
    the boat was loaded beyond a safe weight for it's design.

    The NTSB spokesperson stated that they are going to take advantage of the
    fact that there is a sister ship to the Ethan Allen owned by the same cruise
    company. They will be utilizing her to run handling tests tomorrow with
    equivalent weight as was loaded on Sunday. Additionally they will be
    performing an incline test.

    They also plan to put the Ethan Allen back into the water to check her hull
    integrity to see if there were any leaks that may have contributed to the
    accident.

    What follows are solely my opinions-

    The design weight used at the time of the classification for 50 people is
    150 pounds per person. It is unlikely that 48 senior citizens would have
    been close to that average.

    The modifications to add the hardtop and sides were not in the original
    design, and there may have not been enough ballast added to compensate for
    the additional weight up top. I don't believe it is know whether on not a
    naval architect reviewed the design changes at this time.

    The area where the boat was turning has a very large mansion on a rather
    tall hill that the tour boat drivers like to point out to the passengers. I
    suspect, and again, it is only my opinion, that the passengers were all on
    one side of the boat attempting to get a better view. As the boat has a
    hard top, they would have had to move to one side of the boat to get a look
    at it.

    The passengers that were on board may not have had the agility or sense of
    balance to react to the boat's listing by moving back to the other side of
    the boat, or the speed at which things went from stable to capsized may have
    happened too fast for anyone to react to.

    All in all, a very tragic accident that we will remember for a long time.
    My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims and the
    survivors.

    Jeff Folino
    Latham, NY
    QEIII- Clayton, NY
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