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T&T: Overview NWS Weather System, US West Coast.

From: Mike Maurice (no email)
Date: Mon Jul 04 2005 - 14:58:30 EDT

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    There are about 9 weather offices on the west coast: Seattle, Portland,
    Medford, Eureka, San Francisco, Monterey, Oxnard, LA, San Diego( not
    including Alaska). Each station is generally responsible for the coast near
    their location and for about 50-100 miles on either side.

    Each one has from 1 to perhaps 5 VHF wx transmitters to care for. This does
    not include the transmitters targeted at and located far enough from the
    coast to be out of effective range. Each has a web site page, various zone
    sections to provide forecasts for. The marine forecasts are generally
    updated at 9 and 3, AM and PM ( standard time). In other words when
    daylight time is in effect, the actual time does NOT change, then the near
    shore marine forecasts come out at 8 and 2. Occasionally there will be
    unscheduled updates in between these regular ones. The offshore forecasts
    generally lag the near shore stuff by about 1/2 hour and are generated by
    the National Office, located on the east coast, this also includes the high
    seas forecasts( not broadcast on the VHF transmitters).

    Some of the offices also broadcast on SSB at 2738 and 4125khz. I won't
    delve into these SSB broadcasts as they generally only cover the offshore
    and high seas, although that is not true in Alaska. Alaska is a whole
    different situation.

    WX channels greater than 4 are generally used for marine specialized loops,
    with little mass appeal. The loops generally consist of near shore zone
    forecasts, condition reports consisting of shore based stations followed by
    buoy reports. North of San Francisco the buoy reports are updated every
    hour at about 15-20 minutes after the hour. From SF south the buoy reports
    are generally only updated every 3 hours. 3 hour old reports are not of
    much use.

    The quality control of this system is far from perfect. In other words, the
    transmitters may not be working all the time and the reports may not be
    refreshed after the new forecasts are created. Sometimes a section, perhaps
    the buoy reports or the shore condition reports will be missing. Due to the
    length of time it takes for the loops to complete, it may not be easy to
    tell if a section is missing or has not been refreshed.

    Stations north of SF generally include the date and time of the information
    being broadcast, which makes it easier to tell if the refresh occurs when
    intended. South of SF the time and date have not been included. This makes
    it difficult to verify the quality control. With these stations you will
    just have to phone the local office to verify that the forecast has been
    updated or know by comparing the last forecast with the previous one that
    there have been changes, which then implies that the forecast is the
    current one. This is an unsatisfactory situation.

    Generally in any given trip up or down the coast, there is at least one
    problem with a transmitter out or forecast or condition reports missing,
    somewhere during the trip. I have phone numbers for the various office and
    generally have to call about some problem, on each and every trip. There
    does not seem to be any pattern to these kinds of problems, except the
    refresh problem which is more prevalent where the time and date are not
    included.

    Seamless coverage of transmissions is generally excellent as additional
    transmitters have been installed lately near La Push, WA., Yaquina Bay,
    OR., Port Orford, OR. and San Simeon CA. Generally the transmitters
    alternate, channel 1, 2, 1, 2, etc. as one travels up and down the coast.
    Channels 3 and 4 are used just south of the Columbia River, there is a
    channel 7 near Yaquina Bay, and near major metro areas, channels 3 to 8 are
    in use in some areas.

    I generally phone in reports of any significant difference in the weather
    between that being reported on the wx transmitters and that being
    encountered on scene, when we are at sea. Cell phone service is pretty good
    along the coast except, just south of Cape Mendocino and below Pt. Sur.
    Which means that it is difficult to make reports while in these areas and
    the actual weather is often at variance with that being reported or
    forecast. Keep this in mind if you are traveling in these areas.

    The effectiveness of the broadcasts is uneven due to the fact that with the
    new automated voice system(perfect Paul?), there is no longer any human
    mind deleting redundant words and phrases. This redundancy has turned the
    loops into bedsheets where there may be only 3 repetitions of the loop in a
    whole hour. This particular problem seems to be getting worse, not better
    as it takes custom programming to fix.

    Regards,
    Mike

    Capt. Mike Maurice
    Tualatin(Portland), Oregon
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