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From: Dan Hall (no email)
Date: Fri Jul 01 2005 - 14:10:34 EDT

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    > Thanks Brian:
    > This is precisely the info I was looking for. What did you end up with?
    > The
    > MT49 and 50 are both appealing though I like the heft of the DeFever
    > better.
    > But what in the heck do I know, this business of displacement being more
    > comfortable is (hearsay) to me. I have no direct experience other than
    > party
    > boat fishing. It's much nicer on a 60 footer than a friends Bayliner 24'.
    >
    > Brian wrote:
    >
    >> When I went on the hunt for a trawler a few years ago I didn't really
    >> know
    >> what I wanted after looking at several boats in the 50' range I came
    >> across a
    >> 49 DEFEVER RPH. When I pulled into the parking lot and saw the boat I
    >> knew
    >> immediately that's what I wanted the salty no nonsense look really
    >> appealed to
    >> me. Now that particular boat was not in very good condition and I thought
    >> over
    >> priced after looking at several other 49s I realized that those boats
    >> cost
    >> a
    >> lot more than other Taiwan built trawlers. I don't think its the name
    >> because other styles of Defevers seem to be pretty much in line with
    >> other Taiwan
    >> boats it must be because there just aren't a lot of choices with that
    >> kind of
    >> design.
    >>
    >> I was only able to find one 49 in top condition the asking price was high
    >> and my lower offer was refused the boat sold for near ask about a month
    >> later.
    >> So now I decided the heck with used I'm going to buy a new boat I found a
    >> dealer that had one and got on a plane to go buy a boat. When I arrived
    >> and began
    >> inspecting the boat I was completely disappointed with the quality
    >> Deferrer had stopped building these boats in Taiwan and was now building
    >> in China
    >> and in my opinion the quality went down the drain.
    >>
    >> So I don't know if years from now that a new 49 will bring any more than
    >> some other boat on the used market if the quality doesn't improve I
    >> wouldn't
    >> think so. And as far as the used market it seems they will bring more
    >> but
    >> you
    >> have to pay more on purchase. In my opinion possible resale value should
    >> take a
    >> back seat to finding a boat that you like in good condition at a fair
    >> price.
    >> When you look at Taiwan built trawlers you will find boats with the same
    >> brand name built in the same year with construction methods and quality
    >> that go
    >> from very good to very bad. It appears that the importers of these boats
    >> used
    >> different yards to build them and the yards used different
    >> subcontractors
    >> to
    >> work on them so they really need to be evaluated on an individual basis.
    >>
    >> I ended up finding a boat a little bigger than a 49 with a very similar
    >> design and a much less popular name when I inspected it I was surprised
    >> to find
    >> so many things identical to the 49 I later learned that they were built
    >> in
    >> the same yard. Passagermaker magazine has printed some good articles on
    >> Taiwan
    >> trawlers and Defever I don't know which issues but I'm sure you could
    >> look it
    >> up both are well worth reading. Your considering a beautiful boat and I
    >> wish
    >> you the best of luck finding one.
    >>
    >> Brian
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