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Re: T&T: Boats as investments, or DF 49

From: Dan Hall (no email)
Date: Fri Jul 01 2005 - 13:16:42 EDT

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    Thanks Brian:
    This is precisely the info I was looking for. What did you end up with? The
    MT49 and 50 are both appealing though I like the heft of the DeFever better.
    But what in the heck do I know, this business of displacement being more
    comfortable is heresy to me. I have no direct experience other than party
    boat fishing. It's much nicer on a 60 footer than a friends Bayliner 24'.

    Brian wrote:

    > When I went on the hunt for a trawler a few years ago I didn't really know
    > what I wanted after looking at several boats in the 50' range I came
    > across a
    > 49 DEFEVER RPH. When I pulled into the parking lot and saw the boat I knew
    > immediately that's what I wanted the salty no nonsense look really
    > appealed to
    > me. Now that particular boat was not in very good condition and I thought
    > over
    > priced after looking at several other 49s I realized that those boats cost
    > a
    > lot more than other Taiwan built trawlers. I don't think its the name
    > because other styles of Defevers seem to be pretty much in line with
    > other Taiwan
    > boats it must be because there just aren't a lot of choices with that
    > kind of
    > design.
    >
    > I was only able to find one 49 in top condition the asking price was high
    > and my lower offer was refused the boat sold for near ask about a month
    > later.
    > So now I decided the heck with used I'm going to buy a new boat I found a
    > dealer that had one and got on a plane to go buy a boat. When I arrived
    > and began
    > inspecting the boat I was completely disappointed with the quality
    > Deferrer had stopped building these boats in Taiwan and was now building
    > in China
    > and in my opinion the quality went down the drain.
    >
    > So I don't know if years from now that a new 49 will bring any more than
    > some other boat on the used market if the quality doesn't improve I
    > wouldn't
    > think so. And as far as the used market it seems they will bring more but
    > you
    > have to pay more on purchase. In my opinion possible resale value should
    > take a
    > back seat to finding a boat that you like in good condition at a fair
    > price.
    > When you look at Taiwan built trawlers you will find boats with the same
    > brand name built in the same year with construction methods and quality
    > that go
    > from very good to very bad. It appears that the importers of these boats
    > used
    > different yards to build them and the yards used different subcontractors
    > to
    > work on them so they really need to be evaluated on an individual basis.
    >
    > I ended up finding a boat a little bigger than a 49 with a very similar
    > design and a much less popular name when I inspected it I was surprised
    > to find
    > so many things identical to the 49 I later learned that they were built
    > in
    > the same yard. Passagermaker magazine has printed some good articles on
    > Taiwan
    > trawlers and Defever I don't know which issues but I'm sure you could
    > look it
    > up both are well worth reading. Your considering a beautiful boat and I
    > wish
    > you the best of luck finding one.
    >
    > Brian
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