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T&T: Re: Fastener Grade question

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Date: Wed Dec 01 2004 - 06:49:12 EST

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    Michael,

    I guess I'd call the manufacturer first and ask. Unlikely you're the only one
    with the problem. Is it always the same bolt that shears first? If so,
    perhaps the holes in the pump (or the block) are drilled incorrectly, allowing
    all
    of the pressure to be exerted on the one bolt until it shears, following which
    the second shears. Have you checked to be sure the belt isn't too tight? When
    you replaced the bolts, were you careful not to exceed the max torque and that
    the bolts aren't bottoming in their holes? Correct torque on a 5/16-18 Gr 5
    bolt isn't much, and should be about 1/3 less if the threads are oiled. Of
    course, you could just routinely replace them every year!

    I don't think you should have to go to extremes with higher-grade bolts, and
    certainly not SS, but you could try a grade 7 or 8. There's not much
    difference between them, though, and the 7s are likely easier to find. Try a
    Caterpillar dealer.

    John
    "Seahorse"

       Michael Oritt writes:

    I have an Onan MDJF 15 kW generator, the fresh-water recirculating pump to
    which mounts on an angle bracket that is bolted onto the side of the block
    with
    two 5/16" coarse-thread bolts. The load on the bolts is in shear and perhaps

    because of some vibration problem that is just what the bolts do: After a
    year or so of service they shear off--first one goes and then the second.

    I have just extracted the threaded sections out of the block. The last time
    I used grade 5 bolts and I'd like to use something that perhaps is less
    likely
    to snap off. Are stainless bolts harder or do I need something in harder
    steel? Or should I be using something in a more conventional grade (3 or 4)
    that
    might be less brittle?
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